[mac4theblind] Re: Problem with Voiceover when dealing with editing/navigating more than one page in a document on the Mac
- From: Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:24:45 -0700
Nor I. . I could navigate all the way through interacted and not interacted.
odd?
On Apr 21, 2013, at 7:48 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> this all works fine for me with the two documents supplied.
>
> On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:55 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I actually have all cursers following each other that way I don't' have to
> rout anything if I ever need to do a vo shift space. I was taught this way
> and it has worked for m so far for 3 years, key word being so far. lol!
>
> Tc.
> On Apr 20, 2013, at 2:05 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> you can send them to me as well if you like, I can put them on drop box and
>> send out links to john and sarah if you like.
>>
>> As for cursor tracking, the mouse cursor should ignore the voiceover cursor.
>> tracking is a toggle which is executed via control-option-f3.
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2013, at 4:58 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> You can send them to me directly. I'd be happy to look at them.
>>
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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>>
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
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>> On Apr 20, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David, Jon and Sarah. I do have documents I can send but they are stuff
>>> I do for college. Is there a way I can send a couple of them to you for you
>>> guys to have a mess around with? I don't want to clutter up the list.
>>>
>>> To be honest, it is happening to me more when i'm creating these documents
>>> for assignments etc. I haven't really had it happen when I'm reading a doc
>>> but once I start editing it that's when it happens.
>>>
>>> Sarah, I don't think its a permissions repair because its been happening
>>> for quite a while now and I've did one recently last week in fact and I'm
>>> still having the same trouble.
>>> I'm interested in this curser tracking thing you mentioned. Is there a
>>> particular setting I should try in this section of the VO utility? I have
>>> all the options checked and haven't touched them because quite honestly I'm
>>> confused to what they do.
>>>
>>> Could this possibly be the issue?
>>>
>>> Thanks for bearing with me guys! I really appreciate it!
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>> On 19 Apr 2013, at 18:41, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also if you do have all of your cursers following and tracking each other
>>>> it's time to try a permissions repair. You will not loose data, but maybe
>>>> something got screwed up some how, some ware, some way.
>>>>
>>>> Take care.
>>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 10:27 AM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As David asked, do you have examples of documents doing this. Also, is
>>>>> it happening to all documents. Lastly, do you have your cursors tracking
>>>>> one another? This seems to indicate that the VO cursor and mouse pointer
>>>>> are not in sync.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>
>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>
>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>>>>
>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>
>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 1:48 AM, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Jon and Sarah, thank you both to getting back to me.
>>>>>> Sarah, I've tried re-starting my Mac when I get this issue but it still
>>>>>> comes back when my Mac Book Pro is up and running again. However, I'll
>>>>>> try your other suggestions to se if that resolves anything. I'm not
>>>>>> holding my breath though.
>>>>>> Jon, I always interact with my document before making edits to it anyway
>>>>>> so that isn't the problem. Thanks though I completely forgot to mention
>>>>>> that one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if I can ask you both, say you have a document opened in front of you
>>>>>> and lets say it has a minimum of 4 pages, are you both telling me that
>>>>>> you really both don't start to encounter VO issues?
>>>>>> I was wondering if you could both test something out and report your
>>>>>> finding back to me because if it's this, then it will explain my problem.
>>>>>> Basically I'm terrible at spelling words! LOL So when I come across one
>>>>>> of my mis-spelt words I highlight it with the shift and option and the
>>>>>> arrow key and perform the context menu command to get the right spelling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you guys test this out in a large document and see if VO ever gets
>>>>>> to the point where you have to use the tab key and backspace and after
>>>>>> that the arrow keys start working again. I know it's really weird! :(
>>>>>> But that's what's happening to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel 2013, at 19:55, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only thing that comes to mind is always be sure you are interacting
>>>>>>> with the text area. Even though you might be able to type, that does
>>>>>>> not mean you are interacting. That is the only time I experience
>>>>>>> navigation in text becoming an issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all, I'm using Mountain Lion V8.3 and the free word processor Bean
>>>>>>>> V3.2.4
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For me, I am frequently encountering this occurring problem where
>>>>>>>> Voiceover becomes unable to navigate with the arrow keys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Before I try to attempt to explain this which will be hard and
>>>>>>>> complicated I just want to ask have anyone else experienced this in
>>>>>>>> any shape or form with any word processing app on Mac OSX? I get this
>>>>>>>> same problem with Text Edit, Bean and Pages too.
>>>>>>>> If anyone knows what I'm talking about or would like to have a guess
>>>>>>>> when one is dealing with at least 2 or more pages in a document with
>>>>>>>> VO and the above Word Processors that would be brave of you! Also you
>>>>>>>> might be able to explain it far better than I can.
>>>>>>>> It is the sort of thing where showing it rather than writing about it
>>>>>>>> makes more sense.
>>>>>>>> This is the only annoyance I am having with my word processing
>>>>>>>> experience with my Mac and it is really unproductive too! Sorry for
>>>>>>>> the rant! LOL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look forward to those who can guess! :) Or not?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
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