[mac4theblind] Re: Problem with Voiceover when dealing with editing/navigating more than one page in a document on the Mac
- From: Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:55:20 -0700
I actually have all cursers following each other that way I don't' have to rout
anything if I ever need to do a vo shift space. I was taught this way and it
has worked for m so far for 3 years, key word being so far. lol!
Tc.
On Apr 20, 2013, at 2:05 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> you can send them to me as well if you like, I can put them on drop box and
> send out links to john and sarah if you like.
>
> As for cursor tracking, the mouse cursor should ignore the voiceover cursor.
> tracking is a toggle which is executed via control-option-f3.
>
> On Apr 20, 2013, at 4:58 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> You can send them to me directly. I'd be happy to look at them.
>
>
> Take Care
>
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
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> On Apr 20, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi David, Jon and Sarah. I do have documents I can send but they are stuff I
>> do for college. Is there a way I can send a couple of them to you for you
>> guys to have a mess around with? I don't want to clutter up the list.
>>
>> To be honest, it is happening to me more when i'm creating these documents
>> for assignments etc. I haven't really had it happen when I'm reading a doc
>> but once I start editing it that's when it happens.
>>
>> Sarah, I don't think its a permissions repair because its been happening for
>> quite a while now and I've did one recently last week in fact and I'm still
>> having the same trouble.
>> I'm interested in this curser tracking thing you mentioned. Is there a
>> particular setting I should try in this section of the VO utility? I have
>> all the options checked and haven't touched them because quite honestly I'm
>> confused to what they do.
>>
>> Could this possibly be the issue?
>>
>> Thanks for bearing with me guys! I really appreciate it!
>>
>> Daniel
>> On 19 Apr 2013, at 18:41, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Also if you do have all of your cursers following and tracking each other
>>> it's time to try a permissions repair. You will not loose data, but maybe
>>> something got screwed up some how, some ware, some way.
>>>
>>> Take care.
>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 10:27 AM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As David asked, do you have examples of documents doing this. Also, is it
>>>> happening to all documents. Lastly, do you have your cursors tracking one
>>>> another? This seems to indicate that the VO cursor and mouse pointer are
>>>> not in sync.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Take Care
>>>>
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>
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>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>
>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 1:48 AM, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Jon and Sarah, thank you both to getting back to me.
>>>>> Sarah, I've tried re-starting my Mac when I get this issue but it still
>>>>> comes back when my Mac Book Pro is up and running again. However, I'll
>>>>> try your other suggestions to se if that resolves anything. I'm not
>>>>> holding my breath though.
>>>>> Jon, I always interact with my document before making edits to it anyway
>>>>> so that isn't the problem. Thanks though I completely forgot to mention
>>>>> that one.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if I can ask you both, say you have a document opened in front of you
>>>>> and lets say it has a minimum of 4 pages, are you both telling me that
>>>>> you really both don't start to encounter VO issues?
>>>>> I was wondering if you could both test something out and report your
>>>>> finding back to me because if it's this, then it will explain my problem.
>>>>> Basically I'm terrible at spelling words! LOL So when I come across one
>>>>> of my mis-spelt words I highlight it with the shift and option and the
>>>>> arrow key and perform the context menu command to get the right spelling.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you guys test this out in a large document and see if VO ever gets to
>>>>> the point where you have to use the tab key and backspace and after that
>>>>> the arrow keys start working again. I know it's really weird! :(
>>>>> But that's what's happening to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel 2013, at 19:55, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The only thing that comes to mind is always be sure you are interacting
>>>>>> with the text area. Even though you might be able to type, that does
>>>>>> not mean you are interacting. That is the only time I experience
>>>>>> navigation in text becoming an issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all, I'm using Mountain Lion V8.3 and the free word processor Bean
>>>>>>> V3.2.4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For me, I am frequently encountering this occurring problem where
>>>>>>> Voiceover becomes unable to navigate with the arrow keys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before I try to attempt to explain this which will be hard and
>>>>>>> complicated I just want to ask have anyone else experienced this in any
>>>>>>> shape or form with any word processing app on Mac OSX? I get this same
>>>>>>> problem with Text Edit, Bean and Pages too.
>>>>>>> If anyone knows what I'm talking about or would like to have a guess
>>>>>>> when one is dealing with at least 2 or more pages in a document with VO
>>>>>>> and the above Word Processors that would be brave of you! Also you
>>>>>>> might be able to explain it far better than I can.
>>>>>>> It is the sort of thing where showing it rather than writing about it
>>>>>>> makes more sense.
>>>>>>> This is the only annoyance I am having with my word processing
>>>>>>> experience with my Mac and it is really unproductive too! Sorry for the
>>>>>>> rant! LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look forward to those who can guess! :) Or not?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel************
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