[mac4theblind] Re: Problem with Voiceover when dealing with editing/navigating more than one page in a document on the Mac

  • From: John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:58:48 -0400

    You can send them to me directly.  I'd be happy to look at them.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
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On Apr 20, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi David, Jon and Sarah. I do have documents I can send but they are stuff I 
> do for college. Is there a way I can send a couple of them to you for you 
> guys to have a mess around with? I don't want to clutter up the list. 
> 
> To be honest, it is happening to me more when i'm creating these documents 
> for assignments etc. I haven't really had it happen when I'm reading a doc 
> but once I start editing it that's when it happens.
> 
> Sarah, I don't think its a permissions repair because its been happening for 
> quite a while now and I've did one recently last week in fact and I'm still 
> having the same trouble.
> I'm interested in this curser tracking thing you mentioned. Is there a 
> particular setting I should try in this section of the VO utility? I have all 
> the options checked and haven't touched them because quite honestly I'm 
> confused to what they do.
> 
> Could this possibly be the issue?
> 
> Thanks for bearing with me guys! I really appreciate it!
> 
> Daniel    
> On 19 Apr 2013, at 18:41, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Also if you do have all of your cursers following and tracking each other 
>> it's time to try a permissions repair.  You will not loose data, but maybe 
>> something got screwed up some how, some ware, some way.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 10:27 AM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> As David asked, do you have examples of documents doing this.  Also, is it 
>>> happening to all documents.  Lastly, do you have your cursors tracking one 
>>> another?  This seems to indicate that the VO cursor and mouse pointer are 
>>> not in sync.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 1:48 AM, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello Jon and Sarah, thank you both to getting back to me. 
>>>> Sarah, I've tried re-starting my Mac when I get this issue but it still 
>>>> comes back when my Mac Book Pro is up and running again. However, I'll try 
>>>> your other suggestions to se if that resolves anything. I'm not holding my 
>>>> breath though.
>>>> Jon, I always interact with my document before making edits to it anyway 
>>>> so that isn't the problem. Thanks though I completely forgot to mention 
>>>> that one.
>>>> 
>>>> So if I can ask you both, say you have a document opened in front of you 
>>>> and lets say it has a minimum of 4 pages, are you both telling me that you 
>>>> really both don't start to encounter VO issues? 
>>>> I was wondering if you could both test something out and report your 
>>>> finding back to me because if it's this, then it will explain my problem.
>>>> Basically I'm terrible at spelling words! LOL So when I come across one of 
>>>> my mis-spelt words I highlight it with the shift and option and the arrow 
>>>> key and perform the context menu command to get the right spelling.
>>>> 
>>>> Can you guys test this out in a large document and see if VO ever gets to 
>>>> the point where you have to use the tab key and backspace and after that 
>>>> the arrow keys start working again. I know it's really weird! :( 
>>>> But that's what's happening to me.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks 
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel       2013, at 19:55, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The only thing that comes to mind is always be sure you are interacting 
>>>>> with the text area.  Even though you might be able to type, that does not 
>>>>> mean you are interacting.  That is the only time I experience navigation 
>>>>> in text becoming an issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take Care
>>>>> 
>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>>>> 
>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>> 
>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all, I'm using Mountain Lion V8.3 and the free word processor Bean 
>>>>>> V3.2.4
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For me, I am frequently encountering this occurring problem where 
>>>>>> Voiceover becomes unable to navigate with the arrow keys.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Before I try to attempt to explain this which will be hard and 
>>>>>> complicated I just want to ask have anyone else experienced this in any 
>>>>>> shape or form with any word processing app on Mac OSX? I get this same 
>>>>>> problem with Text Edit, Bean and Pages too.
>>>>>> If anyone knows what I'm talking about or would like to have a guess 
>>>>>> when one is dealing with at least 2 or more pages in a document with VO 
>>>>>> and the above Word Processors that would be brave of you! Also you might 
>>>>>> be able to explain it far better than I can.
>>>>>> It is the sort of thing where showing it rather than writing about it 
>>>>>> makes more sense. 
>>>>>> This is the only annoyance I am having with my word processing 
>>>>>> experience with my Mac and it is really unproductive too! Sorry for the 
>>>>>> rant! LOL 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Look forward to those who can guess! :) Or not?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks 
>>>>>> 
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