--- Veronica Caley <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Donal: > "In fact how is a literal interpretation of the Bible or Koran even > possible, > literally speaking of course?" > > It's very easy. See below. > > Veronica, teaching comparative religions, is talking about the part of the > New Testament story of Jesus turning water into wine at Cana, where a > wedding took place and the guests ran out of wine. > > Student: Jesus didn't do that. He changed the water into grape juice. > > Veronica asks student how he knows this and student says, it's a > mistranslation, good Christians don't drink alcohol. > > This is called cafeteria Biblical interpretation. What you want to take > literally you do, such as homosexuals being an abomination. What you don't > want to take literally, you don't. > > Cafeteria Christianity is similar. It might be that divorce is bad, child > abuse is bad, disobeying one's husband is bad, etc., etc. But, but, but, > this case, my case, is different. > > Veronica I take this post as showing that so-called 'literalists' are often highly selective in what they chose to interpret 'literally'. But there is also a broader point of offering a consistent and comprehensive test of what is 'literal' an interpretation as opposed to a 'non-literal' [eg. purposive] interpretation. Can this be done? The story leaves it unclear. In this context I note that the cafeterian did not explicitly claim to be offering a literal interpretation as opposed to a purposive interpretation according to which perhaps, if one of the purposes of Christianity is to oppose alcohol consumption, it suits Christian purposes to interpret apparent references to alcohol as referring to non-alcoholic beverages from the same grape or grain. So perhaps this is not an example of hypocrisy from a 'literalist' because not not an example of 'literal' interpretation at all, as judged by the justification for this interpretation - 'Christians don't drink'. There are ways to challenge this purposive interpretation. Good Christians don't drink alcohol? What about Jesus and the Twelve Apostles? If this is said to beg the question, what about so-called 'altar wine', which contains alcohol on a simple scientific test? Or beers brewed by Christian monks, which can also be tested for the alcohol content? And insofar as, at the Feast of Canaan, the party-goers commented that it was striking that they left the best drink to last, is the 'cafeterian' really claiming that they were all bowled over by a late serving of great grape juice? These challenges may be rebuffed of course, but surely unpersuasively. As well as these grave matters of exegesis there is the more radical question of whether Christ's actions in just once turning water into wine is any more miraculous than others' seeming ability to reverse the process again and again at will. Donal ___________________________________________________________ Moving house? Beach bar in Thailand? New Wardrobe? Win £10k with Yahoo! Mail to make your dream a reality. Get Yahoo! Mail www.yahoo.co.uk/10k ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html