[lit-ideas] Re: last honest reporter missing

  • From: "Julie Krueger" <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:39:26 -0500

Ah, Walter, you should get in touch with your analogue self...

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:33 PM, <wokshevs@xxxxxx> wrote:

> Quoting Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> > EY:
> > > We all get what we deserve in time, namely being ourselves
> >
> > Yes.  This is one of the truest things that Eric has ever written that
> I've
> > read.
>
> APB:
>
> "Truth" is not a scalar, qualitative concept. It does not admit of degrees.
> Whatever statements Eric made, they are either true or false. It's alot
> like
> logical validity, rationality, pregnancy, and the matter of whether a
> whiskey
> is a single malt or not.
>
> In binary community,
>
> Walter O.
>
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> After all is said and done, we are what we've done. That is to say,
> > we are how we behave.  I agree.  It's interesting to watch people in
> > progress (i.e., those under sixty-three) grapple with moral-social
> questions
> >
> > as if there really is an answer out there beyond their own
> indoctrination,
> > impulses and imagination.
> >
> > Yet here I am closing in quickly on 65 and still childish enough to
> believe
> > that Obama will matter, at least for my children and grandchildren (btw,
> > three days ago I was presented with another grandchild -- everything's
> going
> >
> > grandly, thank you.  Photos to follow).  Like fretful Irene, I fret over
> the
> >
> > future for my grandkids.  All the while I should be fretting over the
> > present of me.  Business has slowed.  Anyone need some HVAC/R work?  Or
> > carpentry.  Or electrical?  Or plumbing?  Or yard work?? -- anything but
> > computers -- call me.
> >
> >
> > Mike Geary
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Yost" <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:18 AM
> > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: last honest reporter missing
> >
> >
> > > >>why aren't you outraged that the people who messed
> > > up so seriously, the CEO's and hedge fund managers and others, are not
> > > only not being fired or sent to prison, but they're given the 700
> billion
> > > to gamble away?
> > >
> > >
> > > The spa trip of the bailed-out money crunchers bothered me. (Even Bush
> > > denounced it.) It's also easy to imagine all these "celebrity CEOs" and
> > > money mavens hanging from lamp posts in every town and village. In
> fact,
> > > the sudden rise of CEOs American style -- was it Lee Iaccoca who
> started
> > > it? -- always bothered me.
> > >
> > > It offends me because it announces a de facto aristocracy in a country
> > > that had historically freed itself from the paradigm of inherited
> > > aristocracy in favor of what Jefferson dreamed of as "natural
> > > aristocracy."
> > >
> > > Yeah lamp posts ... $3,000 dollar shoes swinging in the wind. Crows
> coming
> >
> > > to peck cold eyes ... distended tongues flapping from expensive
> > > orthodontics.
> > >
> > > Then I stop.
> > >
> > > I realize "the other side" (ha-ha!) is using that demotic sense of
> class
> > > envy to promote their own ascendancy to more and more power.
> > >
> > > I realize that, as a hintergedanke, in the back of my mind, is envy.
> Just
> > > envy. The ugly face of envy. An imaginary envy too, envy foisted on me,
> > > since I never craved wealth or power in my own life. Have I ever wanted
> a
> > > job in management? No. Have I ever tried to become a captain of
> industry
> > > but was rebuffed? No. Have I pursued any of the things to which these
> > > executives have devoted their lives? No. Will their suffering improve
> the
> > > world? No. Do I want to spend whatever time remains of my life in
> pursuit
> > > of such goods? No.
> > >
> > > So I take the crooked execs down from their lamp posts. Revive the
> lynched
> >
> > > beau monde. Pull apart the barricades and quit the rampage. The status
> > > anxiety abates.
> > >
> > > We all get what we deserve in time, namely being ourselves.
> > >
> > > Serving time,
> > > Eric
> > >
> > >
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Julie Krueger

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