[lit-ideas] Re: last honest reporter missing

Recommended therapy here is a month-long tour of distilleries in Scotland, on
which the tasting and nosing would be complemented by prolonged discussions of
logic and epistemology. Now that's what I call educational Adventure Travel!

Walter O.
Tour Guide Operator
Loch Epistemogos Distillery
Scotland




Quoting Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> WO:
> > "Truth" is not a scalar, qualitative concept. It does not admit of 
> > degrees.
> > Whatever statements Eric made, they are either true or false.
> 
> Ordinarily I would agree with you, but not when it comes to Eric's posts. 
> He's both right and wrong, true and false almost every time.  It's not his 
> fault.  It's the culture he lives in.  He reads the goddamn Drudge Report 
> for chrissake!  Can you imagine?  Of course he's confused!  How could he not
> 
> be?  He has the glorious instincts of a liberal and the agonistic fears of a
> 
> conservative.  He's both brilliant and belligerent in the same breath.  Eric
> 
> is never either true or false, just as I am -- or am not -- I'm not sure 
> what the linguistic construction should be here -- just let it be said that 
> I am Eric in his Whitmanian contradictions.
> 
> 
> > It's alot like
> > logical validity, rationality, pregnancy, and the matter of whether a 
> > whiskey
> > is a single malt or not.
> 
> I've never experience logical validity, don't know the meaning of 
> rationality -- something to do with WWII and food allotments? I understand 
> pregnancy -- from a distance, thanks be to the male God who made us!  Praise
> 
> the Lord!  Not an afficianado of whiskies.  But Jack black is much better 
> than Jim Beam, that I know to be the truth even if it's just opinion.
> 
> 
> Mike Geary
> Memphis
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <wokshevs@xxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:33 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: last honest reporter missing
> 
> 
> > Quoting Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> >> EY:
> >> > We all get what we deserve in time, namely being ourselves
> >>
> >> Yes.  This is one of the truest things that Eric has ever written that 
> >> I've
> >> read.
> >
> > APB:
> >
> >
> > In binary community,
> >
> > Walter O.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > After all is said and done, we are what we've done. That is to say,
> >> we are how we behave.  I agree.  It's interesting to watch people in
> >> progress (i.e., those under sixty-three) grapple with moral-social 
> >> questions
> >>
> >> as if there really is an answer out there beyond their own 
> >> indoctrination,
> >> impulses and imagination.
> >>
> >> Yet here I am closing in quickly on 65 and still childish enough to 
> >> believe
> >> that Obama will matter, at least for my children and grandchildren (btw,
> >> three days ago I was presented with another grandchild -- everything's 
> >> going
> >>
> >> grandly, thank you.  Photos to follow).  Like fretful Irene, I fret over 
> >> the
> >>
> >> future for my grandkids.  All the while I should be fretting over the
> >> present of me.  Business has slowed.  Anyone need some HVAC/R work?  Or
> >> carpentry.  Or electrical?  Or plumbing?  Or yard work?? -- anything but
> >> computers -- call me.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike Geary
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Eric Yost" <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:18 AM
> >> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: last honest reporter missing
> >>
> >>
> >> > >>why aren't you outraged that the people who messed
> >> > up so seriously, the CEO's and hedge fund managers and others, are not
> >> > only not being fired or sent to prison, but they're given the 700 
> >> > billion
> >> > to gamble away?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The spa trip of the bailed-out money crunchers bothered me. (Even Bush
> >> > denounced it.) It's also easy to imagine all these "celebrity CEOs" and
> >> > money mavens hanging from lamp posts in every town and village. In 
> >> > fact,
> >> > the sudden rise of CEOs American style -- was it Lee Iaccoca who 
> >> > started
> >> > it? -- always bothered me.
> >> >
> >> > It offends me because it announces a de facto aristocracy in a country
> >> > that had historically freed itself from the paradigm of inherited
> >> > aristocracy in favor of what Jefferson dreamed of as "natural
> >> > aristocracy."
> >> >
> >> > Yeah lamp posts ... $3,000 dollar shoes swinging in the wind. Crows 
> >> > coming
> >>
> >> > to peck cold eyes ... distended tongues flapping from expensive
> >> > orthodontics.
> >> >
> >> > Then I stop.
> >> >
> >> > I realize "the other side" (ha-ha!) is using that demotic sense of 
> >> > class
> >> > envy to promote their own ascendancy to more and more power.
> >> >
> >> > I realize that, as a hintergedanke, in the back of my mind, is envy. 
> >> > Just
> >> > envy. The ugly face of envy. An imaginary envy too, envy foisted on me,
> >> > since I never craved wealth or power in my own life. Have I ever wanted
> 
> >> > a
> >> > job in management? No. Have I ever tried to become a captain of 
> >> > industry
> >> > but was rebuffed? No. Have I pursued any of the things to which these
> >> > executives have devoted their lives? No. Will their suffering improve 
> >> > the
> >> > world? No. Do I want to spend whatever time remains of my life in 
> >> > pursuit
> >> > of such goods? No.
> >> >
> >> > So I take the crooked execs down from their lamp posts. Revive the 
> >> > lynched
> >>
> >> > beau monde. Pull apart the barricades and quit the rampage. The status
> >> > anxiety abates.
> >> >
> >> > We all get what we deserve in time, namely being ourselves.
> >> >
> >> > Serving time,
> >> > Eric
> >> >
> >> >
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