[lit-ideas] Re: last honest reporter missing
- From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:02:45 -0500
WO:
"Truth" is not a scalar, qualitative concept. It does not admit of
degrees.
Whatever statements Eric made, they are either true or false.
Ordinarily I would agree with you, but not when it comes to Eric's posts.
He's both right and wrong, true and false almost every time. It's not his
fault. It's the culture he lives in. He reads the goddamn Drudge Report
for chrissake! Can you imagine? Of course he's confused! How could he not
be? He has the glorious instincts of a liberal and the agonistic fears of a
conservative. He's both brilliant and belligerent in the same breath. Eric
is never either true or false, just as I am -- or am not -- I'm not sure
what the linguistic construction should be here -- just let it be said that
I am Eric in his Whitmanian contradictions.
It's alot like
logical validity, rationality, pregnancy, and the matter of whether a
whiskey
is a single malt or not.
I've never experience logical validity, don't know the meaning of
rationality -- something to do with WWII and food allotments? I understand
pregnancy -- from a distance, thanks be to the male God who made us! Praise
the Lord! Not an afficianado of whiskies. But Jack black is much better
than Jim Beam, that I know to be the truth even if it's just opinion.
Mike Geary
Memphis
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Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:33 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: last honest reporter missing
Quoting Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
EY:
> We all get what we deserve in time, namely being ourselves
Yes. This is one of the truest things that Eric has ever written that
I've
read.
APB:
In binary community,
Walter O.
After all is said and done, we are what we've done. That is to say,
we are how we behave. I agree. It's interesting to watch people in
progress (i.e., those under sixty-three) grapple with moral-social
questions
as if there really is an answer out there beyond their own
indoctrination,
impulses and imagination.
Yet here I am closing in quickly on 65 and still childish enough to
believe
that Obama will matter, at least for my children and grandchildren (btw,
three days ago I was presented with another grandchild -- everything's
going
grandly, thank you. Photos to follow). Like fretful Irene, I fret over
the
future for my grandkids. All the while I should be fretting over the
present of me. Business has slowed. Anyone need some HVAC/R work? Or
carpentry. Or electrical? Or plumbing? Or yard work?? -- anything but
computers -- call me.
Mike Geary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Yost" <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:18 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: last honest reporter missing
> >>why aren't you outraged that the people who messed
> up so seriously, the CEO's and hedge fund managers and others, are not
> only not being fired or sent to prison, but they're given the 700
> billion
> to gamble away?
>
>
> The spa trip of the bailed-out money crunchers bothered me. (Even Bush
> denounced it.) It's also easy to imagine all these "celebrity CEOs" and
> money mavens hanging from lamp posts in every town and village. In
> fact,
> the sudden rise of CEOs American style -- was it Lee Iaccoca who
> started
> it? -- always bothered me.
>
> It offends me because it announces a de facto aristocracy in a country
> that had historically freed itself from the paradigm of inherited
> aristocracy in favor of what Jefferson dreamed of as "natural
> aristocracy."
>
> Yeah lamp posts ... $3,000 dollar shoes swinging in the wind. Crows
> coming
> to peck cold eyes ... distended tongues flapping from expensive
> orthodontics.
>
> Then I stop.
>
> I realize "the other side" (ha-ha!) is using that demotic sense of
> class
> envy to promote their own ascendancy to more and more power.
>
> I realize that, as a hintergedanke, in the back of my mind, is envy.
> Just
> envy. The ugly face of envy. An imaginary envy too, envy foisted on me,
> since I never craved wealth or power in my own life. Have I ever wanted
> a
> job in management? No. Have I ever tried to become a captain of
> industry
> but was rebuffed? No. Have I pursued any of the things to which these
> executives have devoted their lives? No. Will their suffering improve
> the
> world? No. Do I want to spend whatever time remains of my life in
> pursuit
> of such goods? No.
>
> So I take the crooked execs down from their lamp posts. Revive the
> lynched
> beau monde. Pull apart the barricades and quit the rampage. The status
> anxiety abates.
>
> We all get what we deserve in time, namely being ourselves.
>
> Serving time,
> Eric
>
>
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Whatever statements Eric made, they are either true or false.
It's alot likelogical validity, rationality, pregnancy, and the matter of whether a whiskey
is a single malt or not.
Quoting Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
EY: > We all get what we deserve in time, namely being ourselvesYes. This is one of the truest things that Eric has ever written that I'veread.
APB: In binary community, Walter O. After all is said and done, we are what we've done. That is to say,
we are how we behave. I agree. It's interesting to watch people inprogress (i.e., those under sixty-three) grapple with moral-social questionsas if there really is an answer out there beyond their own indoctrination,impulses and imagination.Yet here I am closing in quickly on 65 and still childish enough to believethat Obama will matter, at least for my children and grandchildren (btw,three days ago I was presented with another grandchild -- everything's goinggrandly, thank you. Photos to follow). Like fretful Irene, I fret over thefuture for my grandkids. All the while I should be fretting over the present of me. Business has slowed. Anyone need some HVAC/R work? Or carpentry. Or electrical? Or plumbing? Or yard work?? -- anything but computers -- call me. Mike Geary----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Yost" <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:18 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: last honest reporter missing > >>why aren't you outraged that the people who messed > up so seriously, the CEO's and hedge fund managers and others, are not> only not being fired or sent to prison, but they're given the 700 > billion> to gamble away? > > > The spa trip of the bailed-out money crunchers bothered me. (Even Bush > denounced it.) It's also easy to imagine all these "celebrity CEOs" and> money mavens hanging from lamp posts in every town and village. In > fact, > the sudden rise of CEOs American style -- was it Lee Iaccoca who > started> it? -- always bothered me. > > It offends me because it announces a de facto aristocracy in a country > that had historically freed itself from the paradigm of inherited > aristocracy in favor of what Jefferson dreamed of as "natural > aristocracy." >> Yeah lamp posts ... $3,000 dollar shoes swinging in the wind. Crows > coming> to peck cold eyes ... distended tongues flapping from expensive > orthodontics. > > Then I stop. >> I realize "the other side" (ha-ha!) is using that demotic sense of > class> envy to promote their own ascendancy to more and more power. >> I realize that, as a hintergedanke, in the back of my mind, is envy. > Just> envy. The ugly face of envy. An imaginary envy too, envy foisted on me,> since I never craved wealth or power in my own life. Have I ever wanted > a > job in management? No. Have I ever tried to become a captain of > industry> but was rebuffed? No. Have I pursued any of the things to which these> executives have devoted their lives? No. Will their suffering improve > the > world? No. Do I want to spend whatever time remains of my life in > pursuit> of such goods? No. >> So I take the crooked execs down from their lamp posts. Revive the > lynched> beau monde. Pull apart the barricades and quit the rampage. The status > anxiety abates. > > We all get what we deserve in time, namely being ourselves. > > Serving time, > Eric > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html
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