Wow. I missed it by a country mile. And I like entymology too. Thanks for straightening mio out. A.A. -----Original Message----- From: Harold Hungerford <hh@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: May 7, 2004 9:10 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: grades & kleenex No. No. No. In Old English (449-1066+), the third-person pronoun declensions went like this (the order is nominative, genitive, dative, accusative): Masculine: he / his / him / hine (now he / his / him / him) Feminine: hio or heo / hire /hire / hie (now she / her / her / her) Neuter: hit / his / him/ hit (now it / it / its / it) Plural: hie / hira / him / hie (now they / their / them / them) Spellings vary according to the regional dialect. But it's obvious that the whole system is potentially unstable. Harold Hungerford On May 7, 2004, at 5:46 PM, andy amago wrote: So if I understand correctly, there was no subjective form of the feminine pronoun, just the objective? If so, wouldn't that be the same thing, not to be able to say she as distinct from he? Wait, wait, don't tell me. I got it. There was only one form. She as distinct from her. So her picked berries in the woods. So did him pick berries in the woods too? I'm being a regular BOME head tonight. A.A. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html