In a message dated 5/7/2005 1:12:07 AM Central Daylight Time, writeforu2@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Imagine Red-staters voting for Condoleezza Rice? She lies with all the competence of her boss. Liars like Rice Missourians will vote for? Hi, No. Rice would not win. She's not liked here. She is blamed for alot of Bush's failures and people think that she is now trying to 'make it up'...but it's too little, too late. Mostly, though, it is her personality. That is, actually, part of Hilary's problem, too. And, even though I think she has changed things and (perhaps) come a bit more 'into her own', she will not win. It's not because she is female for they would have liked Christine Todd Whitman, actually. (Too bad she was marginalized by Bush and Co.) I think it is that Hilary is lumped too much into the same mix as her husband...and I do not think people really still understand how he symbolizes so much that is 'bad' ... even though, in many respects, that is totally unfair--but people are people, and we are peculiar if we do not 'go deep'. It's all about image, sometimes, though. I have heard that alot of people of both parties like her in NY. But, that information is only found (here) if you dig for it. (even amongst and within the 'liberal papers' ... of which there are some) Even my friends who are gay hope she won't run--for the same reason I worry about--that she won't win in the same states which John Kerry *might* have won had his campaign been run by people a bit more 'in touch' with the people in Missouri. And, it's not really that *we* don't like her, it is that we would prefer not to have the people who were on the fence (and who were fell into the Bush camp because of some of the ways John Kerry's campaign did not address their concerns...) A number of people (esp on the edge) have now said that if they had known then what they know now, they would not have voted for Bush. (I know, I know--the information was there had they but either read it or paid attention...) However, they will have to have a candidate that they can 'handle'...if not embrace. Hillary may be a 'voice of reason' but without the charismatic piece, I just don't see that part within her. And, if I do not see it <g> even fewer in Missouri will. She (or, at least, a very very very well run campaign which will target the pieces of people which need to connect with a charisma in a leader--it *could* be done) Still, if she ran, who would her running mate be, do you think? Best, Marlena in Missouri ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html