The irony is that civilians were put in charge of the military by the Founding Fathers to prevent historical abuses by the military, such as military dictatorships. Congress was intended to oversee the civilians. But, with an estimated 35,000 lobbyists in Washington (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/21/AR2005062101632.html), Congressional oversight is all but nonexistent. The public was intended to supervise Congress, but the public is clueless and gullible (the Founding Fathers anticipated the limitations of the public and instituted the Electoral College). Now it seems there's a new twist on this democracy-turned-corporate-welfare-state and the military have become the ones speaking up against civilian abuses. It's too soon to know what reception they will get, but so far it looks like they'll be either unheard or sent packing. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 4/15/2006 9:04:45 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The US Army in mutiny? I didn?t think my words would permit the construction you place upon them, Irene, but then (I suppose) I often think that. In May 2003 I read The Mission, Waging War and Keeping Peace with America?s Military, Dana Priest, 2003. She was a great fan of Zinni and seems to admire him more than any of the other CinCs. Her chapter three is entitled ?The CinCs: Proconsuls to the Empire.? The CinCs had enormous power and influence in their regions, and Zinni?s included the Middle East before he retired and was replaced by Tommy Franks. Zinni was a bit of an Arabist in that he loved to work with the various leaders. They respected him and he respected them. He made up his own mind about things. On page 110, for example, Priest writes ?But Zinni saw Pakistan?s leader, Gen. Musharraf, as a force pressuring the Taliban toward moderation. Acting on that opinion, the Pentagon, led by Zinni and the Vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen. Joseph Raltson, had single-handedly kept the door open to Pakistan.? I don?t question that it was good that we kept the door open to Pakistan, but ?as a force pressuring the Taliban toward moderation?? One needs to be ignorant about Islamism or to have moved fairly far along the Arabist trail to imagine that. In regard to the recent in history of the Military vs Government, ?Clinton and the military never got along. For such a smart politician, Clinton had been so dumb in the beginning regarding his relations with people in uniform. But at the same time, on Clinton?s watch the military slowly, without public scrutiny or debate, came to surpass its civilian leaders in resources and influence around the world.? [p. 42] [p. 47] ?predictably, the military learned to operate in civilian realms, while their civilian counterparts in every agency were more isolated, less knowledgeable, and less comfortable with the military world.? I shouldn?t need to explain that when Rumsfeld became Secretary of Defense, the military was no longer going to be permitted to run things to the extent they did under Clinton, and many resented Rumsfeld for this change. I can sympathize with the Generals having been in Aerospace long enough to see generations of bright but inexperienced young managers brought in to sweep our endeavors with new brooms. None of them had the experience I had nor were they (in my humble opinion) as bright; so our relationships were invariably stormy. Zinni had been running things in the Middle East for years and had kept them running fairly smoothly. He was probably viewing Rumsfeld about the way I viewed my young managers. Did I ever bad-mouth any of my young and inexperienced managers the way Zinni et al bad-mouthed Rumsfeld. Alas, I confess that I did, but only to friends who pretty much knew my opinion anyway. I never bad-mouthed any of them if anything important (like an Air Force contract) was on the line. So I?d like to think that if I were Zinni I wouldn?t risk giving succor to the Islamists by bad-mouthing Rumsfeld in public. Some (besides Andreas) have suggested that Zinni and the others may fear that that Rumsfeld intends to bomb Iran?s nuclear facilities. Now anyone who feels that the Taliban can be induced to be moderate may well feel that the same thing is true of the Iranian leadership, but many (including the administration) think such a view faulty. No one can be an Arabist that hasn?t lived with them for years. [see Robert D. Kaplan?s The Arabists, the Romance of an American Elite, 1993.] A great number of such people function as though they have gone over to the enemy. They take on the cause of the nation in which they are living. This problem has been endemic with our ambassadorial staff. I doubt that is true of Zinni, but he seems to think the Islamists are far more malleable than I think they are. In regard to recent discussions he is perhaps more in sympathy with Fukuyama, Roy, & Kepel than with authors I find more credible. But a great number of other very knowledgeable people such as Amir Taheri, Kenneth Timmerman, Jonathan Fenby, Bruce Bawer, Mohammad Mohaddessin, Ilan Berman, Claire Berlinski, Jean Bethke Elshtain, David Horowitz, Daniel Pipes, Bernard Lewis, Samuel P. Huntington, Thomas P. M. Barnett, Henry Munson, Jr., Victor Davis Hanson, Robert Kagan, Richard Miniter, George Friedman, Paul Berman, Be vin Alexander, and David Selbourne believe the administration is (more or less) on the right track. On page 248 of How America Got it Right, Alexander writes ?Skeptics of the U.S. efforts in the Middle East say that the difficulties encountered in trying to set up democracies in Afghanistan and Iraq ? along with Somalia?s inability to create even a functioning government, much less a democracy ? show that equitable societies cannot exist in Muslim lands. George W. Bush believes just the opposite, that democracy is possible throughout the Middle East. But even if true democracy fails, we will still be partially successful if we create governments that are merely less oppressive. Such governments are unlikely to harbor terrorists. And eliminating terrorism is our principle goal.? Lawrence