[lit-ideas] Re: Olivier Roy, Daniel Pipes and Oriana Fallaci

  • From: Eric <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:09:04 -0500

Omar: *Yes, I think there will be some truth to this.

Eric: Actually the thing about Marlowe was odd. He was odd man out in an espionage activity and probably was knifed for it on order of the Crown.

Omar: Many of the practices that are said to be "Islamic" are not
actually ordained by Islam but stem from the
pre-Islamic or medieval Arab culture. However, I doubt
that this can account for the Arab (generally
speaking) political or economic backwardness.

Eric: Certainly the comparison to the Inquisition belies any claim to modernity. Yet if we take the practice of "Death Fatwas," for example, and go to www.islamweb, you'll see they have a "Fatwa Bank" that justifies various kinds of medieval-style capital punishments by references to hadiths from the Koran. For example, the fatwa site considers it okay to stone a woman to death for adultery and sites Koranic evidence for the practice. (Their argument is well, it didn't start with the Koran; it's in Deuteronomy; so it's part of a nobler tradition, and anyway the P-is-for-prophet said it's okay to kill women for these reasons.)

That's a lot more "backward" (savage, crude, uncivilized) than going to a marriage counselor or divorce lawyer.

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