Sounds like you people deserve each other. Everybody's angry and clueless what to do with it. I notice that the conference will address the "rootless" youth, but it doesn't sound like they'll be addressing why they're rootless. Sort of like dealing with gangs in this country without addressing why they kids need to be in gangs; like, maybe they need a family, some structure, a father; religion offers all of these things. Answer to gangs: lock em up, throw away the key ... ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 3/24/2006 2:30:19 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Olivier Roy, Daniel Pipes and Oriana Fallaci But there are powerful voices weighing in on the side of our war being not just against the Islamists but against all of Islam. I just read Oriana Fallaci?s The Rage and the Pride. She was in New York within walking distance of the Twin Towers on 9/11 and afterwards she saw Muslims around the world on TV dancing and singing over America having got what it deserved. She knows how to hate and she knows how to hold a grudge. She hates the cicadas, the politically correct who apologize to the Muslims while they engage in the most outrageous behavior. They can behave anyway they like back in their own country but when they come to the West, they should behave in accordance with our standards. She has examples and she names names. Of course someone issued a fatwa calling for her death after she wrote The Rage and the Pride. Fallaci worries about the treasures in Italy that the Islamists have no respect for. They would destroy the works of Michael Angelo just as they did the Buddhas of Bamiyan. She lists many of Italy?s treasures and concludes, ?I also worry for the Academy Gallery where we keep Michelangelo?s David (Shamefully naked, my God, therefore particularly blamed by the Koran). And should the poor-little-things destroy one of those treasures, only one, I swear: it is I who would become a holy-warrior. It is I who would become a murderer. So listen to me, you followers of a God who preach an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. I was born in the war. I grew up in the war. About war I know a lot and believe me: I have more balls than your kamikazes who find the courage to die only when dying means killing thousands of people. Babies included. War you wanted, war you want? Good. As far as I am concerned, war is and war will be. Until the last breath.? Lawrence