[lit-ideas] Re: "No offence meant", "None taken": the implicature
- From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
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- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 05:44:01 EDT
I forgot this (interesting, I hope) point from the OED. Before providing the
quotes that I have already provided for 'no offence' [sic], the OED goes to
define this 'colloquialism', as it calls it:
no offence (colloq.):
do not take offence;
no offence is meant or taken.
So we see here that there are _three_ paraphrases involved. The first is an
'imperative':
do not take offence.
or, as I prefer
do not take offence!
(to mark it _is_ an imperative).
The two others are more of an indicative mode, with different 'verbs':
no offence is meant
no offence is taken.
The third, 'no offence is taken', I take to belong to the addressee, which
we should consider under a separate section. I want to consider here the
distinction between the imperative-mode and the indicative-mode versions.
One feature of the imperative-mode version,
'You do not take offence!'
has the simplification that no mental state on the part of the utterer is
made explicit. Besides, that is, that the utterer's desire that no offence
should be taken by the addressee. But nothing is said about whether the
offence
is MEANT.
This is a good point, because it allows us to define _meant_ offence as an
offence _meant_ to be taken as such by the addressee. So it's ALWAYS the
effect or response (as Grice would prefer) on the addressee that matters.
My idea is that the process is Gricean -- yet sneaky -- in that offence is
meant as be taken as such in a Gricean kind of way. Sometimes it works, as
when P. Stone takes his friend for his candour. Sometimes it doesn't.
Grice seems to have been interested in this sort of communicative process
from early in his career. In his 'Meaning' (1948) -- mainly a discussion of
Stevenson's _Ethics and language_ then almost fresh from the press, Yale UP --
Grice writes of the case of
'cutting someone on the street'
-- The scenario is different from cases of linguistic expression of 'no
offence'. But there are some similarities, as to whether the intention that
the
addressee will take offence be recognised or not.
Grice is comparing two cases. In the first he says 'communication' is not
achieved:
-- As an examiner, I fail a man. I may well cause him humiliation. And, if I
am vindictivie, I may intend this effect on his part, and even intend him to
RECOGNIZE my intention.
Grice's diagnosis:
Yet, I should NOT be inclined to say that my failing him _meant_
(in a non-natural way) anything.
Comment. One may take sides against this. We may
imagine the question to give offence:
A: What's the first part of the American
constitution?
Ritchie: You mean the green cover?
A: No, I mean the first _written_ part
Ritchie: The title.
A: Mmm. No (marks a minus). Think deeper, Dr.
Ritchie.
It starts with a 'p'.
Ritchie: The prolegomena.
(A signifies no with her head and marks another
minus)
Ritchie: the proemium ... the perilipomena.
A (smiling tangentially -- telephone rings) Allo?
You are
getting closer, Dr. Ritchie, but no cigar yet.
The second letter is indeed a 'r', and it has
two
syllables, perhaps one in fasty Scots.
Ritchie: I give up! Forget about American
nationality!
Later that evening, Ritchie finds that they wanted him to say "preamble". So
he make take _offence_ at his having _failed_ on that particular section --
He still _got_ American nationality.
So the examiner question can be qualified.
In any case, Grice wants to contrast it with a second scenario:
"Compare that with this.
"I cut someone in the street"
Grice's diagnosis:
"In this case, I DO feel inclined to assimilate this to the cases
of non-natural meaning [we have been discussing in this essay],
and this inclination seems to me dependent on the fact that
I COULD NOT REASONABLY EXPECT HIM
to be distressed (indignant, humiliated [-- and I add
'offended',
or as having 'taken offence' JLS]
UNLESS he recognised my INTENTION to affect him in this
way
[I'm stretching the example, because it would be odd to
shout from the other side of the street, "Offence meant!" or
even "No offence meant" as we cut him]
The third case, "If my college stopped my salary altogether, I might accuse
them of ruining me; if they cut it by one pound, I might accuse them of
insulting me; with some larger cuts I might not know quite what to say."
We could imagine written statements for that
The Body
St. John's College,
Oxford
Mr. Grice
Banbury Road
Oxford.
Dear Mr. Grice,
No offence, but we are cutting your salary by one
pound.
Cheers,
[illegible]
----------------------
Dear Mr. Grice
No offence [meant to be taken by you] but we stopping
your salary altogether. The position is still holdable as
an honorary one -- and with a right to the Friday
ecumenical service and bring-and-share.
Cheers,
[illegible]
-----
Dear Grice,
Due to the restrictions of the post-war depression that
the whole varsity and indeed dear old country ('we
must all stick together') is suffering, we are cutting
your salary by (pounds) 150.
Do not take offence! It can happen to anybody
Cheers,
[illegible]
---
Grice was very fastidious as to what type of reaction he would assume in
each case, depending on the sum -- no doubt the reactions may vary from one
individual to the other.
P. Stone says that "No offence" ALWAYS is offensive. It's an underhand
expression that brings offence as a topic. I agree. I'm surprised Mark Antony
used
it for Cleopatra (in Shakespeare) who he was hoping to mate with.
Strawson's point in "Freedom and Resentment" -- an essay Grice loved as the
ONLY type of moralistic philosophy he could swallow from a philosopher -- and
this because Strawson was his friend and former tuttee -- is that we can
only TAKE offence at acts which spring from the autonomy (so Okshewski has no
say on this matter).
Thus, if a giraffe, during a safari, piss you on the face -- as you observe
her from a convertible, you CANNOT take offence.
(with the giraffe, perhaps with the driver).
-- Parrots are different.
If somebody dies of cancer and therefore causes you to have to attend a
funeral in the meaning of nowhere, you still cannot _take offence_ at the dead
or
dying person, because her disease was, ceteris paribus, not something she
could control.
If somebody is a maniac-depressive and offends you, you should NOT take
offence if you understand that the person was under severe medical treatment.
This limits, Strawson, says the cases only to what Grecian students do. They
recall a case when they had this Balkan student, who bribed Gardiner into
allowing the Balkan student for an overnight visit to London.
The Oxford philosophers spent a whole Saturday morning discussing ways of
expressing that one HAD taken offence.
Nowell-Smith, in the role of the straight man, said that the proper way to
signify that one has taken offence would be to say,
NIKOLAIDES enters room, offers money and says,
"I hope that you will not be offended by this
somewhat
Balkan approach".
GARDINER: (i) I do not take bribes on principle.
(Nowell-Smith's suggestion)
(ii) No, thanks (Austin's
suggestion)
Nowell-Smith went on discussing whether the implicature here was that
Gardiner did take offence. Austin's suggestion seems to imply that a MINOR
offence
was taken, and that you do not need to _explicate_ (as per an explicature_)
the reason for your taking offence, but keep the conversation smoothly Oxonian
all the time.
Cheers,
J. L. Speranza,
Buenos Aires, Argentina
JL
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