Phil Enns: "Further afield, there is Camus' discussion in _The Rebel_ of the Russian anarchists..." John Mc: "Or the Samurai attitude immortalized in Chushingura..." Unless I'm wrong, and I was once, you guys are on the wrong bus. Norman's asking after David Savory's old bug-a-boo: 'honor'. Why don't American uxoriciders own up to their deeds with honor? I suggested that they have, par exemple, in the person of Hickey (Iceman Cometh) -- Norman's still checking that out. My question is where has Norman been for he past 41 years? "Miranda Rights -- ever heard of 'em? No one confesses without plea bargining -- where's the honor is being thought a dim-wit? Honestly, Norman, you're so yesterday. Mike Geary guilty of nothing but being me in Memphis ----- Original Message ----- From: John McCreery To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:03 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Murder in two cultures On 4/14/07, Phil Enns <phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: who would immediately surrender after having done the deed. Perhaps more relevantly, there is Camus' discussion of why this practice stopped. (The 47 Ronin), where duty requires a man who has lost his lord to remain alive until revenge is taken, after which he should, to demonstrate his nobility, take his own life. John -- John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN Tel. +81-45-314-9324 http://www.wordworks.jp/