[lit-ideas] Re: Guess - Answer
- From: "veronica caley" <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:37:47 -0400
" it's *only* hurt people who hurt people. Happy people just don't need to."
My experience has been that hurt people sometimes have a higher degree of
empathy.
Veronica
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy
To: lit-ideas
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 4:52 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Guess - Answer
I'll read this later, but if we impugned everyone of good faith, which
is to say motive, we'd find that most of our heroes when disrobed have very
clay feet. I almost defy you to find one that has pure motives.
For Veronica, I originally said [Marx] was right, and he was wrong, and
I have no strong feelings one way or the other about him. I sympathize with
his desire for a middle class, basically that's what he's doing, but I
absolutely have no sympathy for his violent approach. Revolution is another
way of spelling war. But then, people's imaginations are so limited, all they
think of is violence. Even we went out and invaded Iraq; Vietnam, and on and
on. Also, poor people are as greedy as rich people. Child exploitation is a
horrific issue everywhere and always and is the root of all greed and evil.
Capitalists were once children too, and the bad child rearing they experienced
hardens them and makes them exploit the children they themselves once were.
Hurt people will always hurt people and the cycle continues into forever. In
fact, it's *only* hurt people who hurt people. Happy people just don't need
to.
For Robert, I agree. The phrase has been shortened and made almost
quippy. I know translations can be tricky. I don't know German whatsoever but
I know just generally speaking it's the essence, not the words that are
translated. I think the essence remains of workers throwing off their chains
though, don't you? Kind of a rhetorical question.
Andy
--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Guess - Answer
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 8:05 PM
--- On Mon, 3/8/09, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Guess - Answer
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, 3 August, 2009, 7:24 PM
> Still, even if he was assigned
> the topic, it did seem to wind up as a recurring theme,
> perhaps even mission for his life. Christopher
> Hitchens took apart Mother Theresa. Does that mean she
> wasn't sincere? Still looking for the
> evidence...
Link to a short piece by Prof. Flew that puts the issue of bad faith
as something that can be shown by Marx's failure to take a seriously
self-critical view of his own works...
http://elm.eeng.dcu.ie/~tkpw/newsletter/v4n1-2/node28.html
Donal
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