A. Amago: > As to whether philosophy would have helped, I read somewhere > that Russell Bertrand was depressed to where he was contemplating ending his > life. Reminds me of the lines from Ferlinghetti: "I read the meaning of life somewhere but I can't remember exactly where...." > Then while walking on a beach he began to consider life, and it gave him > enough purpose, shall we say, to keep going. Wait, are you telling me the man never considered life until he got to the beach? Wow. No wonder he wanted to kill himself. I'm sure it was all those girls from Ipanema that gave him purpose. I know they keep me going. What's the meaning of life? Yes, you guessed it, you dirty old man. But I wonder why you would cite Bertrand Russell's suicidal thoughts as though they were somehow aberrant. I don't think I've gone a day since puberty that I didn't weigh the pros and cons of killing myself. No tomorrow, surcease of sorrow. All right, maybe not sorrow, I've lived a pretty pampered life compared to most people in the world. But death would bring an end to bloody, demanding consciousness, as Paul Stone would call it. No more what now? what now? what now? what now? Make it stop! Of course there's always drinking as Paul pointed out. "Nietzsche can teach ya, but liquor is quicker" as Ogden should have said. That and curiosity. I wonder if tomorrow it'll be different. Mike Geary Memphis > Many philosophers, from Socrates to Wittgenstein have at one time or another > considered suicide; but so have many ordinary people. Why is it relevant that > Russell was a philospher? If there's an argument here that philosophy will > answer some question or other--or that there is even a question here to be > answered--I've missed it. Philosophers don't treat every question as a > philosophical question, for not every question is. (Here, I find myself in > surprising agreement with Donal McEvoy.) > > '[Russell] began to consider life, and it gave him enough purpose...to keep > going.' Yes, and one could equally well think about one's family and friends or > how pleasant it was to walk on the beach, as opposed to being immobilized in a > frozen lake. As an example of how philosophy can settle questions about the > meaning and purpose of life, the case is, I think, underdescribed. > > Robert Paul > Reed College > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html