> A.A. Homosexuals do have things in common, to wit, they like > drag, they wear skirts with no underwear (based on past Gay Days > in Disneyworld), they are very youth and appearance oriented, > they are among the biggest consumers of sex related drugs such > as Viagra, much of it bought on the internet, and so on. This > is common knowledge. Just shows the limits of common knowledge. Judy Evans jaye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > -----Original Message----- > From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of andy amago > Sent: 09 May 2004 17:47 > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Correction and Weight Watchers (1974) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: May 9, 2004 12:00 PM > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Correction and Weight Watchers (1974) > > > >> Uh, Andy, hmmm. How many gay guys do you know personally? > > > A.A. Personally? As in up front and personal? Let's see. Probably > about as many as I know serial killers. < > > Yes, that's what I assumed from your post. > > > > > But does that mean the FBI can't profile serial killers and > know generally > what drives them? < > > I have no idea what the accuracy rate of criminal psychological profiling > is, but even if it's high, the profiles are made through in-depth, > historical knowledge of specific personality types, not through > accepting > stereotypes about them. Homosexuals are not a specific personality type, > they are as varied in personality as the heterosexual population -- and > that's my point. > > > A.A. Homosexuals do have things in common, to wit, they like > drag, they wear skirts with no underwear (based on past Gay Days > in Disneyworld), they are very youth and appearance oriented, > they are among the biggest consumers of sex related drugs such > as Viagra, much of it bought on the internet, and so on. This > is common knowledge. Now the question becomes, why such an > emphasis on youth and appearance, why the need for skirts when > even women wear pants most of the time, and so on. > > > > > Do you really think that being something gives people any clue > to why they > do what they do, or can't stop themselves from doing what they > don't want to > do? < > > If you weren't such a new member, you'd know that the last thing > I trust is > self-knowledge. And I'm not sure what that has to do with the question > anyway. I'm not saying that you have to BE a homosexual in order to pass > judgment on them, I'm saying you need to KNOW some homosexuals, then you > wouldn't think of passing judgment on them any more so than > passing judgment > on Italians or Americans. > > > A.A. Or I'd have to know some serial killers or some drug > addicts or some prostitutes. There are traits groups have in > common, including ethnic groups, such as Italians or Americans, > that are very different from other groups and are easily > identified. While individuals within any group are different, > groups tend to be fairly homogeneous in values and norms. And, > unless you believe that things happen without cause, can we > agree that these guys self select for a reason, into this > general lifestyle called "gay" which chooses to emphasize a lot > of sex and appearance for its mainstays. > > > > > So, in short, yes, I think observing is often a better way to know > something than to be in the midst of it. < > > Yes, every prejudice thinks it knows all it needs to know. All I'm > suggesting is that your TV sitcom observations of homosexuality > leave a bit > to be desired, if you'll forgive my saying so. > > > > A.A. Actually, I much prefer the History Channel. Or CNN (for > all its faults). Or even Judge Judy to get a really close > glimpse of the masses. I have never watched even Friends and do > not mourn its passing. Since I do industrial copywriting, I > keep up with the culture only as much as I need to for small > talk. Beyond that I break out in hives so I have to quit and > soothe myself with the Weather Channel. Therefore, any > information about homosexuals I have is not gathered from sit coms. > > Laura (no, not Petrach's Laura) is hounding me to do the > Mother's Day thing. So, I gotta make like a banana and split. > > > A.A. > > > > Mike Geary > Memphis > a queer city if ever there was one > and gay, too! > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html