In a message dated 2/9/2005 7:06:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes >just making an empirical observation 'Bleach smells like bleach' as some kind of tautology may be strong in the dominant western philosophical tradition, but in my household bleach never smells like bleach --- Well, if you are >just making an empirical observation, I suppose you'll agree it's _people_ in the household who actually _smell_, since bleach has no nose. The problem is with 'like' (in 'bleach smells like bleach'). In German -- ask any Popperian -- it's a different construction (not even with 'als'). Even in _French_, they don't say 'le clorure a l'odour COME le clorure'. Cheers, JL ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html