As I recall, sometimes the battery was molded into a package with leads, looking like a big capacitor or something, and what you needed to do is get out the ol' soldering iron, mount a battery holder on the case somewhere, and solder wires between the motherboard and the holder. Certainly not easy for beginners. But once done, you can use inexpensive A cells or whatever. My emachine of two years vintage has a coin style battery in a clip holder showing right on the motherboard, with location shown on documentation. By the way, how do you tell when it needs to be replaced? Can one make a voltage measurement, or just replace it frequently on principle? I guess my time is coming close [1.5 years when the lifetime is said to be ~ 3 years]. On the other hand, I have a paper copy of all the cmos settings [somewhere], just in case. Cat On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:25:55 EDT bob.in.jersey@xxxxxxxx writes: > On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:22:15 PDT, thepccat wrote: > > Well, that will certainly work well for providing correct time to > > file stamps. But why not bite the bullet and buy and install a > > battery? Having a dead battery can also scramble your CMOS > > information, no? > Don't forget, Cat, that some latter-day computer makers won't tell > you how to get at the battery! This is in fact true of my father's > machine, made by Compaq around the time of Win98 original. > BoB To unsubscribe, send a message to listar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe juno_accmail" in the body or subject. OR visit http://freelists.dhs.org ~*~