Interesting question. IVAO have rightly identified the Isle of Man as separate from the UK but, for ATC purposes, should be linked to the UK pages. We don't have a separate FIR and have no authority over airspace allocation. About ten years ago our CTR was a perfect racetrack shape and then the CAA chopped two bit off it - we didn't have much say in the matter. Although we have a separate ANO this is only because it is a legal document and needs approval in our legislation. Other than that we abide by CAA rules and the UK Manual of Air Traffic - and are subsumed into the UK AIP. IVAO members can register as Manx but this becomes confusing as they do not appear in the IVAO UK pages. We cannot generate an Isle of Man division without a lot of work - essentially duplicating the IVAO UK pages and pilot/controller training systems - but this would be hard work. The requirements for setting up a Division are stringent too - see http://ivao.aero/rulregs/division.htm Technically the Isle of Man should be flagged as an active division (as should Guernsey and Jersey) but should have a link to the UK pages rather than their own websites. They should not be assumed to be under the control of IVAO UK so much as being hosted by them under bilateral agreement and a local rep should be responsible for any content for these areas. Essentially this would be limited to published operational procedures for the three airports. bones bones@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kev Townsend Sent: 23 July 2009 06:47 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: IVAO Tonight Does that mean us S3's can fire up at EGNS as APP? Kev On 7/17/2009 16:55:24, Fossil (fossil@xxxxxxx) wrote: > Because the Isle of Man > isn't a registered active division (no ATC system > set up) it doesn't have > an active link on the IVAO country page. I have > found you can bypass this - try this link: > http://www.ivao.aero/members/person/country.asp?Id=IM > > > > bones > bones@xxxxxxx