RE: removing authorization key, putting it back later

From: "Frankie. V." <frankmventura@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 21:34:42 -0500
Actually all anyoned needed was a Macintosh and a floppy drive (or two to
make things even easier) to duplicate a qwela authorization disk; but
luckily for fS very few people knew this.

Regards,
Frankie V.

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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Brandon B
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:24 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later

I really hate how blind pardon the pun that some people can be on this 
matter.

There are more cracks now that jaws went to an ilm scheme. There was way way

less around when they hada quella auth. IT took quite a bit of work to copy 
a quela disk because of how the disk was layed out and not that I have ever 
done it, but I've seen how it was done, it wasn't worth the time. To the 
people who do the cracking, ILM=worth cracking. FS could use some sort of 
encryption scheme to allow you to back up your liscence so in my eyes this 
is a violation of fare use. Although the fact that they seem to reset the 
authorization without any hastle might shield them from anything. I own a 
copy of jaws and frankly I like to support the people that make the 
accessibility happen.




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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later


> Hi,
>
> They do have both and ask no questions what so ever when you write or call
> for a reset.  I honestly do not know why this seems to be so unfair to
> others here.  I've done it several times without a problem.
>
> The reason we don't have the floppy disk license anymore is because of
> pirateing of JAWS.  With ILM this is much harder and perhaps impossible. 
> If
> people didn't steal all the time then perhaps FS wouldn't have to resort 
> to
> this kind of thing, but people steal and they have to protect themselvs
> whether we like it or not.
>
> Rick
>
>
> =======
>
> Visit my webpage at www.blind-geek-zone.net
>
> Here you will find Audio tutorials for popular programs, blindness related
> web links, blind mailing list links and documents for various things.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>
>
> I thought FS had a way to reset the key over the web?  Or at least some
> other
> way then by calling them.  I was extactic when they came out with a flash
> version of jaws till I learned this didn't mean you could put the
> authorization
> on the flash drive.  Of course I think if jaws is for greater access, they
> shouldn't have an authorization scheme at all.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:57 PM
> Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>
>
>>I actually have done that.  But when my keys get down to one I know to 
>>call
>> FS.  if that is on the weekend then I wait till monday.  I understand his
>> gripe but still one needs to know the rules of the product they are 
>> using.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> =======
>>
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>>
>> Here you will find Audio tutorials for popular programs, blindness 
>> related
>> web links, blind mailing list links and documents for various things.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Blake Sinnett" <frequency660@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>>
>>
>> I can see where he's coming from... I suppose if you want something
>> without
>> this problem, you'll have to get a dongle, for $45.
>>
>>
>> From: "John Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:28:08 -0600
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>>
>>
>>>For one thing, it's not a problem. It's by design.
>>
>> It's  a problem  for me! I don't care if it's by design.
>>
>> My CD-ROM dies and instead of just being able to swap it out, I have to
>> call
>> FS and get reauthorized? That's bogus. Why would I care if it's a bug or
>> by
>> design
>>
>>>For a second thing,
>>>if you're going to be using it, you'd darned well better read up on it.
>>
>> Who says?
>>
>> An authorization scheme that requires you to study it is itself a defect.
>> I'm a professional programmer. And I consider it a failure on my part
>> every
>> time I have to explain how to use one of my programs. Sometimes it's
>> impossible to have things simple enough that they need no explanation. 
>> But
>> I
>> haven't had to study the authorization scheme for any other software I've
>> ever licensed. I don't lose my Windows XP authorization when i swap out a
>> CD-ROM drive.
>>
>>>Third, whether you or anyone else thinks it's stupid is irrelevant, this
>>>is the way it is. Ranting and stamping your foot isn't going to change
>>
>> First of all, I'm not "ranting" nor am I "stamping my foot". I'm stating
>> my
>> opinion just as you are stating yours.
>> If you're questioning why I'm talking about it on this list, well, it 
>> came
>> up. Why are you talking about it?
>>
>> But more importantly, this is how things get changed. They certainly 
>> won't
>> change if nobody complains. I told FS that I found their authorization
>> scheme unacceptable. I did them a favor in doing so.
>>
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