Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later

  • From: Bruce Toews <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:59:01 -0600 (CST)

You're the only one screaming,f rom what I can tell.

Bruce

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On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, John Heim wrote:

Look, I've already said several times that I understand how it works. Please stop explaining to me *why* it works the way it does. That isn't going to change my opinion. First of all, I understand how it works. Second, I don't care.

I don't care about the technical explanation. Why would I?The bottom line is that I can't swap out my CD-ROM drive if it fails without phoning FS.

In my opinion, the authorization scheme shows a huge amount of arrogance on the part of FS. Either that or foolishness. I don't think they can afford to anger their customers right about now. Not with VoiceOver and orca breathing down their necks (not to mention Windo-eyes).

Maybe this is OT for this list. Is the future of JFW a valid topic? If so, I am saying that I am not happy. I have actively begun looking for alternatives. VoiceOver looks very promising. I'd probably have switched by now except it has one killer defect, it doesn't read the terminal window text unless you use the cursor keys. It's like you have to use the jaws cursor and arrow around in the window. Several of us VO users have entered bug reports with Apple about this. I'm hoping it's fixed in the next release of the MacOS. If so, I'm outta here and FS has blown a $1000 re-licensing fee.

Of course, they'd probably lose me as a customer anyway as soon as either VoiceOver or orca get to be good enough to be used every day for real work. Maybe they realize that and figure JFW has a limited life anyway. That would explain why they're so draconian about licensing. Maybe they're trying to get as much out of it as they can before it's obsolete.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later


 John,
 Part of the auth code is the computer's hardware fingerprint.  This is
 crucial when activating JAWS.  If you chaarge a hardware (for example,
 CD-ROM or adding additional memory (which I've done), the next time JAWS
 starts, it will find that the hardware is different from what it is used
 to.  When you look at the locking code (hardware fingerprint), you'll
 notice that it has changed.  At that pointeay'll need to reactivate JAWS.
 Locate your Auth CD and activate your software.  If you remember your auth
 code (20 alph-numeric string), type it in the auth box.
 Cheers,
 Joseph

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:49:23 -0600
> Subject: Re: removing authorization key,
 putting it back later

> I don't know which way is better.  A couple
 of weeks ago, my CD-ROM drive
> died.  I swapped in a new one and lost my
 jaws authorization.  Now, that is
> bogus.  Why in the world would I have to
 reauthorize a license for anything
> just because I swapped out a CD-ROM drive?
 Oh, I know there is a good
> *technical* explanation.  But from a customer
 service standpoint, that is
> truly bogus.

> When you pay $1000 for a piece of software,
 you expect better service than
> that.

> From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)"
 <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:58 AM
> Subject: RE: removing authorization key,
 putting it back later


> >  This is really not as big a hassle as it
 seems.  In a lot of ways, ILM's
> >  are less trouble than their predecessors.
 You no longer have to worry
> >  about an optimization program trashing your
 key.  Furthermore, if you do
> >  need a fresh supply, getting replacements is
 far easier than it used to
> >  be.  The old process involved either reset
 codes, which did not always
> >  work, or waiting for a fresh disc to arrive.

> >  Ted

> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >  Behalf Of Leonard Salinas
> >  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:30 AM
> >  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >  Subject: re: removing authorization key,
 putting it back later


> >  not only that, if you change any hardware in
 your system the ilm
> >  authorization is render invalid.


> >  Legend has it that on Monday 1/29/2007 11:23
 PM, Joseph Lee said:
> > > Patricia,
> > > ILM is different from Quela authorization.
> > > If you have Quela autherization (JAWS 5.1 or
 earlier), use HJAUTH
> > > utility to save the auth key back to the
 diskette and install it
> > > later.  With ILM, you can indeed remove auth
 code, but you cannot
> > > install it later.
> > > You'll need to activate it again (ILM looks
 for the hardware
> > > fingerprint in order for it to work).  If the
 drive is changed (for
> > > example, formatted), then it will ask you to
 reactivate it.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Joseph

> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Patricia" <bcsarah.fan@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Date sent: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:21:52 -0800
> > > > Subject: removing authorization key, putting
> > > it back later

> > > > is there a way that you can remove your
> > > authorization key (sauy for formatting your
 computer) and then
> > > putting it back later so that you don't have
 to redo your keys
> > > thereby losing another key? I don't see any
 way of doing this, and
> > > am asking on a friend's behalf but I think
 that if there ins't a way
> > > there should be because then people wouldn't
 have to constantly call
> > > FS or fill out the form online.

> > > > Patricia

> > > > e-mail: bcsarah.fan@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > msn: bc_sarah_fan@xxxxxxxxxxx
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