Re: length of jaws training
- From: "jim" <jazzpiano@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 05:48:20 -0700
Frances,
It sounds like your approach is absolutely the one to use, right on. Here I am
in Covina, and have never come in, to take training from you. My question and
it's probably a dumb one is this. Since I retired from teaching, I started
learning to use the computer. In learning the computer, windows commands, and
jaws as well, is it possible to use Jaws, yes, and even Kurzweil by strictly
using Windows commands, just eliminating the num pad? I use the num pad all the
time, but was thinking as I read your post, that if you just had one list of
commands to use, it would make learning the computer and Jaws simpler. Sorry
for the long post.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Judith Bron
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: length of jaws training
Frances, If only the educators in this country would follow your lead and
insight into educating perhaps we would be miles ahead in solving the education
problems in this country! You hit a lot of nails on the head. I learned basic
word processing and when I have a question, well, you guys get it. But you
have to have an understanding of the computer, windows and the programs you
will need to meet whatever goal you are working towards. Judith
----- Original Message -----
From: Francis Daniels
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: length of jaws training
I work mostly with older adults. Even though they have computers at home,
and have time to practice, they see me once a week for 2 hours at a time. I
give them taped and brailled material and have them do homework to bring back
for discussion. Even so, it all varies according to:
1. How motivated they are for learning.
2. How they learn.
3. How they take notes. If they tape the material, how much time is spent
reviewing what they taped.
A person's skill, compentency and ability are also factors here. If a
person types but has difficulty with pressing the correct keys, they can get
frustrated in succeeding a particular issue. I am working with a man who
suffered a stroke and has trouble with his left hand, particularly the index
finger. It will take him 3 minutes to select text so he can cut and paste it
in Word, but he can do it.
The way I teach is in small steps, highly structured and with a goal in
mind. Once they grasp that goal, we move to the next one, which includes part
of the last goal. I move in this fashion until they can put it all together.
If one student "gets it" ahead of the others, I have them help out with the
other members.
I like to teach basic Windows concepts first, then illustrate dialog boxes
through HJ Pad. Then I move to Word basics. You can incorporate Internet and
email commands once they have learned word processing, since the techniques are
similar. I would mix taped material along with face-to-face instruction. I
hate working with tapes, since they never match with what I have on the screen,
and you cannot ask a tape a question about a process.
In short, I don't think there is an easy answer to your question, Linda.
Francis
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