Re: firefox and Jaws

Hi Shari,

Yeah, but Window Eyes is such a nightmare to use anyway, that it's almost a moot point. But you're right in that there is an underlying problem with Jaws and how it's interacting with certain web sites. If Window Eyes is still working, then Freedom Scientific needs to address this Jaws issue before this matter becomes a bigger problem. From what I've read in other posts, FS has been made aware of the problem and they're apparently looking into it.

Michael



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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shari Weir" <shariweir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws



Hi Michael, You are right about FS needing to figure things out. Although I
don't use Window Eyes, I understand it hasn't encountered the same problem
with Amazon.


Shari
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael G." <commodore128@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws



Hi,

I'm glad people  have found my little work around to work for them.  I'll
tell you how this idea occurred to me and why I think it's an issue with
the
virtual cursor. When you're navigating the search results with your
virtual
cursor and land on a product link, right-mouse click on the link and bring
up the context menu. Notice that it doesn't offer you any of the typical
items such as Open, Open in New Window, Copy Shortcut, etc. In fact, it
appears that the virtual cursor has focus on an empty spot within the
page.
I originally wanted to try opening the link in a new window but as you can
see, this isn't possible. That's when I thought of maybe turning the
virtual
cursor off and trying the links list. This issue doesn't make any sense to
me. If the virtual cursor is able to read the darn link, why the heck
can't it interact with it in the normal way? And why is it that only some
links are affected while others are not? This is the first time I've ever
encountered an issue like this. Amazon is obviously using something new
in
the way of web page design that Jaws isn't able to handle. I have to
agree
with some of the other comments I've read. This appears to be more an
issue
that Freedom Scientific needs to address rather than Amazon. If Amazon
is
beginning to use this particular type of web page design, then it's a good
bet that other web sites will start to implement the same type of design
as
well.  Freedom Scientific will need to find how to get Jaws to work with
these designs and hopefully soon.

Michael

----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws



> You're welcome, but that was Michael G.'s discovery. The problem has > inspired some real cleverness out of our collective frustration, I
think.
> Good for us.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tiger Mark" <mbmartin@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:38 AM
> Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws
>
>
> I just tried this suggestion concerning Amazon searches, that is
> by finding the product then turning off virtual cursor with
> insert z, bringing up links list with insert f7, found product in
> list and entered. Much less cumbersome than my previous
> suggestion. Thanks for the helpful tip.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:09 AM
> Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws
>
>
>> If you've been following the thread, you may have seen that you
>> don't have
>> to stumble around with the Jaws cursor. Two options aside from
>> the "access"
>> site:
>>
>> 1. for a CD or a book, find it at borders.com and you'll wind
>> up doing
>> business with Amazon, as you're accustomed to, without getting
>> stuck. Try
>> it and see what I mean. Or
>> 2. On your Amazon page of search results, find the items you
>> wish to
>> purchase in the normal way, arrowing up and down the list with
>> virtual
>> cursor on, then turn off the virtual cursor with Insert V,:pull
>> down the
>> Insert F7 links list, find the item by pressing the first
>> letter of its name
>> until you come to it, press Enter. Things should be okay from
>> there. It
>> seems to be just that search results page that's a problem.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tiger Mark" <mbmartin@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws
>>
>>
>> Since I don't prefer the Amazon/Access website the only other
>> work-around that works for me is to find the product I want to
>> link on by using the Jaws cursor, and then clicking with the
>> left
>> mouse button. Sometimes I I have to pass the item I want to
>> look
>> at by three or four products before I can see it with the Jaws
>> cursor. This can be rather tedious but has worked every time.
>> HTH!
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I don't know about other people, but I have a feeling that,
>>> like me, they're
>>> aware of other music retailers like Tower, Virgin, and so
>>> forth. But at
>>> least for some Amazon customers, we buy a lot more than just
>>> music CDs. I
>>> buy those, but also books as gifts for friends who can read
>>> them and many
>>> other items that have nothing to do with something that's only
>>> a music
>>> store. So there's the disappointment, at least for a customer
>>> like me.
>>>
>>> that said, I'll post something helpful as a workaround next.
>>> a
>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Marsha Anderson" <marcatony@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> Tower records has an impressive collection of music. If
>>> Amazon doesn't
>>> work perhaps Tower records will.
>>>
>>> Marsha Anderson
>>>
>>>


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