Re: firefox and Jaws

Hi,

I'm glad people have found my little work around to work for them. I'll tell you how this idea occurred to me and why I think it's an issue with the virtual cursor. When you're navigating the search results with your virtual cursor and land on a product link, right-mouse click on the link and bring up the context menu. Notice that it doesn't offer you any of the typical items such as Open, Open in New Window, Copy Shortcut, etc. In fact, it appears that the virtual cursor has focus on an empty spot within the page. I originally wanted to try opening the link in a new window but as you can see, this isn't possible. That's when I thought of maybe turning the virtual cursor off and trying the links list. This issue doesn't make any sense to me. If the virtual cursor is able to read the darn link, why the heck can't it interact with it in the normal way? And why is it that only some links are affected while others are not? This is the first time I've ever encountered an issue like this. Amazon is obviously using something new in the way of web page design that Jaws isn't able to handle. I have to agree with some of the other comments I've read. This appears to be more an issue that Freedom Scientific needs to address rather than Amazon. If Amazon is beginning to use this particular type of web page design, then it's a good bet that other web sites will start to implement the same type of design as well. Freedom Scientific will need to find how to get Jaws to work with these designs and hopefully soon.

Michael

----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws


You're welcome, but that was Michael G.'s discovery.  The problem has
inspired some real cleverness out of our collective frustration, I think.
Good for us.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tiger Mark" <mbmartin@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws


I just tried this suggestion concerning Amazon searches, that is
by finding the product then turning off virtual cursor with
insert z, bringing up links list with insert f7, found product in
list and entered.  Much less cumbersome than my previous
suggestion.  Thanks for the helpful tip.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws


If you've been following the thread, you may have seen that you
don't have
to stumble around with the Jaws cursor.  Two options aside from
the "access"
site:

1.  for a CD or a book, find it at borders.com and you'll wind
up doing
business with Amazon, as you're accustomed to, without getting
stuck.  Try
it and see what I mean.  Or
2.  On your Amazon page of search results, find the items you
wish to
purchase in the normal way, arrowing up and down the list with
virtual
cursor on, then turn off the virtual cursor with Insert V,:pull
down the
Insert F7 links list, find the item by pressing the first
letter of its name
until you come to it, press Enter.  Things should be okay from
there.  It
seems to be just that search results page that's a problem.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Tiger Mark" <mbmartin@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws


Since I don't prefer the Amazon/Access website the only other
work-around that works for me is to find the product I want to
link on by using the Jaws cursor, and then clicking with the
left
mouse button.  Sometimes I I have to pass the item I want to
look
at by three or four products before I can see it with the Jaws
cursor.  This can be rather tedious but has worked every time.
HTH!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws


Hi,

I don't know about other people, but I have a feeling that,
like me, they're
aware of other music retailers like Tower, Virgin, and so
forth.  But at
least for some Amazon customers, we buy a lot more than just
music CDs.  I
buy those, but also books as gifts for friends who can read
them and many
other items that have nothing to do with something that's only
a music
store.  So there's the disappointment, at least for a customer
like me.

that said, I'll post something helpful as a workaround next.
a
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Anderson" <marcatony@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: firefox and Jaws


Hi
  Tower records has an impressive collection of music.  If
Amazon doesn't
work perhaps Tower records will.

Marsha Anderson


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