Re: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!

Since Windows Mail is not officially supported on a Windows 7 system, I doubt 
that FS would try to fix the problem.  It's hard enough to get them to fix the 
things they break in each release of JFW.

Gary King
w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Daniel McGee 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:34 AM
  Subject: Re: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!


  Hi everyone, I have been following this conversation and the bit about jaws 
not working on a 64 bit system interests me. I was just wondering why is this 
so? I was wondering what state of mind is this situation really in? For example 
is that it you can try to create message rules and you can check the boxes but 
jaws doesn't provide feedback on weather its checked or not. So one has to 
asume that it is checked even though jaws doesn't say it is. If you know what I 
mean. Or is it worse than that! I was just wondering what experiences people 
have had with this with there 64 bit systems. Also I am guessing that people 
have let FS know about it. It sounds like a funny problem and an annoying one 
at that! 
  Thanks 
  Daniel 


  From: Hamid Hamraz 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:40 AM
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Subject: Re: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!


  Yes, many things from OE can be ported, such as messages, accounts and 
contact lists, but I believe that the rules can not be ported at all, and for 
your case, the only solution is to ask for sighted assistance for the rules 
creation.
  Note: for the contact list, I exported a comma separated value (CSV) from OE. 
Here in windows mail, I couldn't use that because here the all columns, such as 
first name, last name, email, etc, were treated as only a single column. I 
couldn't made the proper mapping between the columns, and therefore I build up 
my contact list from scratch using my messages in my inbox (not that hard: 
right click and add sender to address book)
  If you want to configure WM in future, I recommend to export the contact list 
in other formats too, such as WAB,etc.

  HTH
  Hamid
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Gary King 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:41 AM
    Subject: Re: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!


    Hamid,
    Unfortunately, I have a 64-bit Windows 7 system, so the message rules 
problem might be a show stopper for me since I depend on those rules to filter 
my messages into folders for each list.  I'm still not clear about what's 
happening with the check boxes on 64-bit systems though.  I'm wondering if JAWS 
can see the check boxes at all and speak their checked or unchecked state.  I 
know that many Outlook Express settings can be transferred from one computer to 
another, but I don't know if that's true with message rules. If so, I might be 
able to port my existing rules over to the Windows 7 system.  Once I create 
some recovery disks for my Windows 7 system and create a restore point, I just 
may take my chances and give Windows Mail a try.

    Gary King
    w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Hamid Hamraz 
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:47 AM
      Subject: Re: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!


      Hi Gary,

      I think the problem with the message rules is only within 64-bit 
machines. Mine is 32-bit, and I could create my message rules the same as OE 
without a hitch.
      The issue of the automatic focus switch is a matter of personal taste; I 
think it's not avoidable. Now I usually use ctrl + j and ctrl + u (just the 
same as OE) for moving around the folders containing unread messages.
      It is mostly like a name change to windows mail. Jaws (11) sometimes 
mistakenly call it Outlook Express!
      One improvement that I was expecting over OE is the addition of the 
language feature to its editor, I.e. when I change the keybord layout language, 
there should be a tag which lets Jaws reads the messages with its true 
language. Anyway this is also similar as OE.
      To sum up, no problem so far.

      Cheers
      Hamid
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Gary King 
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:32 AM
        Subject: Re: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!


        Hamid,
        At some point, I will probably try the Windows Mail configuration on my 
Windows 7 system.  I hope you find a way to solve the focus change problem.  
Have you found any other problems with Windows Mail on your Windows 7 system?  
It has been stated on this list that message rules creation can't be done 
because of problems with the check boxes in the rules creation dialog.  Have 
you tried to create message rules in Windows Mail?

        Gary King
        w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Hamid Hamraz 
          To: Jaws for windows 
          Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 2:56 PM
          Subject: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!


          Hi all,

          I have windows 7 installed on my computer and managed to configure 
windows mail as the default email client using the tutorial here as provided by 
David:

          
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14125880/Ryan%27s%20Windows%20Mail%20Tweak%20tutorial.zip

          So far so good! This might be useful for folks avoiding upgrade to 7 
because of the email client issue.

          One difference to OE: when navigating in the folder view pane, for 
each folder that receives focus, if that contains any message, the focus 
switches automatically to the message list of the folder. Any suggestions on 
how to disable this feature or maybe tame it down for better utilization?

          Cheers
          Hamid

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