Re: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!
- From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:18:59 -0600
Since Windows Mail is not officially supported on a Windows 7 system, I doubt
that FS would try to fix the problem. It's hard enough to get them to fix the
things they break in each release of JFW.
Gary King
w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel McGee
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!
Hi everyone, I have been following this conversation and the bit about jaws
not working on a 64 bit system interests me. I was just wondering why is this
so? I was wondering what state of mind is this situation really in? For example
is that it you can try to create message rules and you can check the boxes but
jaws doesn't provide feedback on weather its checked or not. So one has to
asume that it is checked even though jaws doesn't say it is. If you know what I
mean. Or is it worse than that! I was just wondering what experiences people
have had with this with there 64 bit systems. Also I am guessing that people
have let FS know about it. It sounds like a funny problem and an annoying one
at that!
Thanks
Daniel
From: Hamid Hamraz
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:40 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!
Yes, many things from OE can be ported, such as messages, accounts and
contact lists, but I believe that the rules can not be ported at all, and for
your case, the only solution is to ask for sighted assistance for the rules
creation.
Note: for the contact list, I exported a comma separated value (CSV) from OE.
Here in windows mail, I couldn't use that because here the all columns, such as
first name, last name, email, etc, were treated as only a single column. I
couldn't made the proper mapping between the columns, and therefore I build up
my contact list from scratch using my messages in my inbox (not that hard:
right click and add sender to address book)
If you want to configure WM in future, I recommend to export the contact list
in other formats too, such as WAB,etc.
HTH
Hamid
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary King
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!
Hamid,
Unfortunately, I have a 64-bit Windows 7 system, so the message rules
problem might be a show stopper for me since I depend on those rules to filter
my messages into folders for each list. I'm still not clear about what's
happening with the check boxes on 64-bit systems though. I'm wondering if JAWS
can see the check boxes at all and speak their checked or unchecked state. I
know that many Outlook Express settings can be transferred from one computer to
another, but I don't know if that's true with message rules. If so, I might be
able to port my existing rules over to the Windows 7 system. Once I create
some recovery disks for my Windows 7 system and create a restore point, I just
may take my chances and give Windows Mail a try.
Gary King
w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Hamid Hamraz
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!
Hi Gary,
I think the problem with the message rules is only within 64-bit
machines. Mine is 32-bit, and I could create my message rules the same as OE
without a hitch.
The issue of the automatic focus switch is a matter of personal taste; I
think it's not avoidable. Now I usually use ctrl + j and ctrl + u (just the
same as OE) for moving around the folders containing unread messages.
It is mostly like a name change to windows mail. Jaws (11) sometimes
mistakenly call it Outlook Express!
One improvement that I was expecting over OE is the addition of the
language feature to its editor, I.e. when I change the keybord layout language,
there should be a tag which lets Jaws reads the messages with its true
language. Anyway this is also similar as OE.
To sum up, no problem so far.
Cheers
Hamid
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary King
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!
Hamid,
At some point, I will probably try the Windows Mail configuration on my
Windows 7 system. I hope you find a way to solve the focus change problem.
Have you found any other problems with Windows Mail on your Windows 7 system?
It has been stated on this list that message rules creation can't be done
because of problems with the check boxes in the rules creation dialog. Have
you tried to create message rules in Windows Mail?
Gary King
w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Hamid Hamraz
To: Jaws for windows
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 2:56 PM
Subject: Windows mail: automated switch to the message list!
Hi all,
I have windows 7 installed on my computer and managed to configure
windows mail as the default email client using the tutorial here as provided by
David:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14125880/Ryan%27s%20Windows%20Mail%20Tweak%20tutorial.zip
So far so good! This might be useful for folks avoiding upgrade to 7
because of the email client issue.
One difference to OE: when navigating in the folder view pane, for
each folder that receives focus, if that contains any message, the focus
switches automatically to the message list of the folder. Any suggestions on
how to disable this feature or maybe tame it down for better utilization?
Cheers
Hamid
Other related posts:
