I don't know either; for all I know it's a bug they just fixed before I downloaded it. Chip =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 3:49 PM > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Problems with windows XP SP2 and my lap top. >=20 > I answered all the questions right, yes to everything so far,=20 > but OE can't send forwards, most replies work but some don't,=20 > and there was 1 other program that didn't work, I found the=20 > fix in the support section of sygate's site but it makes no=20 > sense at all to me, I dunno. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 3:20 PM > Subject: RE: Problems with windows XP SP2 and my lap top. >=20 >=20 > > Well, flexible might not be the best term to use to compare it to a=20 > > "real" firewall (Sygate or otherwise). Windows firewall lacks a=20 > > crutial feature, probably the one causing you some trouble, which=20 > > detects and blocks potential trosians and spiware. Windows=20 > firewall=20 > > simply makes no attempt at all to deal with such problems. > > > > So far, I haven't found anything that can't be made to work=20 > properly=20 > > by answering a Sygate automatic "popup" dialog. If you ever answer=20 > > "no", instead of "yes", then you indeed may find a program=20 > appearing=20 > > to not be working because you've just caused Sygate to block it. > > > > In that case, you can "reset" sygate so that it deletes all=20 > of those=20 > > ansers you've given it, and you get another try at setting=20 > it correctly. > > > > =3D20 > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 > >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Mote > >> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 2:42 PM > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: Re: Problems with windows XP SP2 and my lap top. > >>=3D20 > >> Sygate was a pain for me as well. Even if you enable a=3D20=20 > program,=20 > >>that doesn't mean all of its features work. For=3D20 instance, my=20 > >>mlb.tv and game day audio subscriptions. They=3D20 never wanted to = > >>work with Sygate. I don't like that program.=3D20 > >> Windows firewall seems to be more flexible. I don't know if=3D20 = > >>that's a good thing or not when it comes to fire walls. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:56 PM > >> Subject: Re: Problems with windows XP SP2 and my lap top. > >>=3D20 > >>=3D20 > >> >I had problems with sygate, couldn't send email replies or=20 > >> >forwards=3D20 more often then not and I think I had problems with = > >> >AIM=3D20 > >> getting online=3D20 > >> >so I disabled it until I feel like figuring out what the=3D20 > >> problem is, =3D20 > >> >that's something to take note of though, it's not just=3D20 > >> install and go,=3D20 > >> >there is stuff that might not work right and will have to=3D20 > >> be tweaked. > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:21 PM > >> > Subject: RE: Problems with windows XP SP2 and my lap top. > >> > > >> > > >> >>I eventually did also; I replaced the Windows firewall with=3D20 > >> a free one =3D20 > >> >>from Sygate, which I'm pretty happy with (it seems very=3D20 > >> friendly, and=3D20 > >> >>of course is much more robust than the Windows one). > >> >> > >> >> Chip > >> >> > >> >> =3D3D20 > >> >> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =20 > >> >>>[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman > >> >>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:45 AM > >> >>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>> Subject: Re: Problems with windows XP SP2 and my lap top. > >> >>>=3D3D20 > >> >>> I turned off the windows firewall and security center. > >> >>>=3D3D20 > >> >>> Johnnie Apple Seed > >> >>>=3D3D20 > >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:41 AM > >> >>> Subject: RE: Problems with windows XP SP2 and my lap top. > >> >>>=3D3D20 > >> >>>=3D3D20 > >> >>> And I'm afraid mine was fixed by rerunning the wireless=3D20 > >> networking =3D20 > >> >>>wizard. This evidently opened up some needed ports which=3D20 > >> the newly =3D20 > >> >>>installed xp sp2 firewall had closed. > >> >>>=3D3D20 > >> >>> Alternatively, if this isn't it, some laptop=20 > manufacturers=3D3D20=20 > >> >>>=3D20 provide their own software to help you "Manage" your=20 > >> >>>wireless=3D20 > >> connections. This is > >> >>> usually a separate application, not just the card driver.=3D20 > >> IBM calls =3D20 > >> >>>theirs IBM Access Connections. In the case of an IBM=3D20 > >> thinkpad, this =3D20 > >> >>>software automatically disables the Windows service for=3D20 > >> controlling =3D20 > >> >>>wireless connections (called Wireless0 I think) and=20 > handles these=20 > >> >>>=3D20 connections itself. Unfortunately, it didn't play = well=3D20 > >> with=3D3D20 the=3D20 > >> >>>xp sp2 firewall, so I disabled it ( the application=20 > from IBM I=3D20=20 > >> >>>mean), then I had to go and find how to re-enable Windows=3D20 > >> control of=3D20 > >> >>>my wireless connections. > >> >>>=3D3D20 > >> >>> I don't remember exactly where I found it; I had to go=3D20 > >> into control =3D20 > >> >>>panel | network connections | wireless connections and=3D20 > >> somewhere in =3D20 > >> >>>there is a check box that says "let windows manage my=20 > wireless =3D20=20 > >> >>>connections" or something very close. I had to check it. > >> >>>=3D3D20 > >> >>> After I had done that, I ran the windows wireless=20 > connection=3D3D20 =20 > >> >>>=3D > > > >> >>>wizard and finally all worked again. > >> >>>=3D3D20 > >> >>> I have to admit that Windows didn't offer as many options=3D20 > >> as the IBM =3D20 > >> >>>Access Connections utility, but it seemed to be the=3D20 > >> quickest=3D3D20 way=3D20 > >> >>>to get things working for me again, so that's what I did. > >> >>>=3D3D20 > >> >>> Hth, > >> >>>=3D3D20 > >> >>> Chip > >> >>>=3D3D20 > >> >>> =3D3D3D20 > >> >>>=3D3D20 > >> >>> > -----Original Message----- > >> >>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D20=20 > >> >>> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris McMillan > >> >>> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 8:53 AM > >> >>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>> > Subject: RE: Problems with windows XP SP2 and my lap top. > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > Dear List: > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > The Wireless Wizard might help but this is a know issue=3D20 > >> with=3D3D3D20 =3D20 > >> >>> >the major router companies and the PC manufactures. I=3D20 > >> was on=3D3D3D20 =3D20 > >> >>> >two conference calls with Microsoft the last two weeks=20 > >> >>> >and=3D3D3D20 =3D > > =3D20 > >> >>> >they blame the driver issues and firmware from the=3D20 > >> router and=3D3D3D20 =3D20 > >> >>> >wireless card manufactures. =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20 I have three = =3D > > wireless=3D20 > >> >>> >notebooks and the only luck I had was=3D3D3D20 not use = the=3D20 > >> Microsoft=3D20 > >> >>> >wizards but my Dell software that came=3D3D3D20 with my=20 > >> >>> >wireless=3D20 cards. =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20 Sincerely, =3D3D3D20 = =20 > >> >>> >Christopher McMillan =3D > > > >> >>> >chrismcmillan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx E-mail =3D20 > >> christophermcmillan@xxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 > >> >>> >MSN Messanger > >> >>> > 203 934 5468 Home Number > >> >>> > 203 444 5661 Cell Phone > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > -----Original Message----- > >> >>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D20=20 > >> >>> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman > >> >>> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 8:42 AM > >> >>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>> > Subject: Re: Problems with windows XP SP2 and my lap top. > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > yu have to run the wireless network wizard. > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > Johnnie Apple Seed > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>> > From: "Mike Mote" <mikemote@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 6:51 AM > >> >>> > Subject: Problems with windows XP SP2 and my lap top. > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > Hi folks! Not really a jaws issue necessarily, but I=3D20 > >> know=3D3D3D20 =3D20 > >> >>> >many people on=3D3D3D20 this list have had their share of=20 > >> >>> >problems =3D > > > >> >>> >with the new=3D3D3D20 Windows XP SP 2, and =3D3D3D20 = I'm=3D20 > >> wondering if I=3D20 > >> >>> >can get some help on my problem. I=3D3D3D20 installed = Sp2=3D20 > >> last=3D3D3D20 =3D20 > >> >>> >week, and sense then, I've had nothing but trouble with=20 > >> >>> >my=3D3D3D20 =3D > > =3D20 > >> >>> >wireless features =3D3D3D20 on my lap top computer,=3D20 > >> specifically, my=3D20 > >> >>> >internet connection.=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > It's as if,=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > it's not there. Wondering if this is strictly Sp2=3D20 > >> related,=3D3D3D20 =3D20 > >> >>> >and is there any =3D3D3D20 documentation on how to fix = this=3D20 > >> problem. =3D20 > >> >>> >I'm using a net=3D3D3D20 gear router, if=3D3D3D20 that=20 > helps. I'm=20 > >> >>> >=3D > > not=3D20 > >> >>> >having any problems with my desk top at=3D3D3D20 home, = but=3D20 > >> on my =3D3D3D20 =3D20 > >> >>> >lap top, it's a different story. > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > -- > >> >>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =20 > >> >>> >To=3D20 unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=20 > >> >>> >to=3D3D3D20 =3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20 > >> >>> >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D20 =3D > > =3D20 > >> >>> >subject line. > >> >>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D20 > >> from=3D3D3D20 =3D20 > >> >>> >the list, or the =3D3D3D20 way the list is being run, do=3D20 > >> not post them=3D20 > >> >>> >to the list.=3D3D3D20 Rather contact the=3D3D3D20 list=20 > owner at=3D20=20 > >> >>> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > -- > >> >>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =20 > >> >>> >To=3D20 unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20 > message to =3D20=20 > >> >>> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20 > >> >>> >the=3D3D3D20 =3D > > =3D20 > >> >>> >subject line. > >> >>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D20 > >> from=3D3D3D20 =3D20 > >> >>> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=20 > >> >>> >to=3D20 the list.=3D3D3D20 Rather contact the list owner = at=3D20=20 > >> >>> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > -- > >> >>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =20 > >> >>> >To=3D20 unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=20 > >> >>> >to=3D3D3D20 =3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20 > >> >>> >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D20 =3D > > =3D20 > >> >>> >subject line. > >> >>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > >> >>> >=3D3D3D20 > >> >>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D20 > >> from=3D3D3D20 =3D20 > >> >>> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20 > >> them=3D3D3D20 =3D20 > >> >>> >to the list. 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