yes, I've found, that sometimes the Sigate dialog is hard to detect. so, when I'm in doubt, I always go to desktop, over to the taskbar, right arrow to the last opened application, then, I alt tab, then more often then not, there's the sigate firewall dialog box, asking for your permission. -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx