RE: New Hotmail format bad for JFW

Hotmail now gives you an option to listen to an audio file which reads the
characters to you.  It sounds a bit garbled, but you can easily play the
file in Windows Media player if you want so that you can play it enough
times either to memorize it or to copy it down to be written in the
appropriate field later.


Regards,
Seth Leblond
Beyond Sight Sales and Technical Support
Phone:  (303) 795-6455, EXT. 102
Web Site:  <http://www.beyondsight.com>



-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Dyer [mailto:mdyer1@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 7:27 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: New Hotmail format bad for JFW


Hi Alan,
I do not use hotmail, how ever I do have a friend that has a hotmail account
and he was trying to get into his messages one nite and it took him a while
to figure out so I think I understand where you come from. One thing I will
point out is the fact that you have to phill in some characters in a picture
and you have to have some one do it for you, and that is really a pain. Well
I will talk to you later.  I will have to see what I can do so that I can
try to sign up for a hotmail account. matt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Clendinen" <alanclendinen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:16 AM
Subject: re: New Hotmail format bad for JFW


> Hello listers,
>
> Several of you responded to my original message by suggesting I 
> upgrade to JFW 5.0. I have the 5.0 CD, but due to the numerous bugs 
> reported by JFW list members, I have decided to wait for some patches 
> before switching to 5.x.
>
> Some of you have confused JFW 3.7 with 3.7U. I'm using 3.7U, which is 
> far less buggy than JFW 5.0.
>
> Another list member asked what version of Internet Explorer I'm using. 
> I'm using version 5.5, which is the most recent version that is 
> compatible
with
> JFW 3.7U.
>
> Until a few days ago, I had no problems with accessing all aspects of 
> Hotmail. The problems I described are caused by Microsoft's 
> "enhancement"
of
> Hotmail.
>
> Somebody else wrote that they were going to switch their students to 
> Yahoo e-mail. Ha! Yahoo is even less accessible to JFW.
>
> I'd like to know from JFW 5.0 users who have accessed Hotmail through
their
> browsers since Microsoft made the format changes, if they have 
> encountered the same problems I described in my previous message.
>
> Only one of the problems  might be fixed by upgrading to JFW 5.0 and 
> IE 6, and that would be the graphical "empty junkmail" control that 
> replaced the JFW-friendly button.
>
> The other problems I described will not be fixed by JFW 5.0. They are
design
> flaws...er... "features" of the new Hotmail.
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> I wrote:
> Hello listers,
>
> Have any of you that have a Hotmail account had problems with the 
> latest format of Hotmail? For example, if you go to the junkmail 
> folder, there
used
> to be a button labeled "Empty junkmail folder." Now, however, there is 
> no such button, and they have replaced it with some text that reads, 
> "Empty Junkmail" and to the left of the text, there is a graphic. I'm 
> using JFW 3.7U, and my attempts to route the JAWS cursor to the pc 
> cursor so I can click on that graphic are leaving me frustrated. I've 
> only managed to do
it
> once out of several attempts.
>
> Hotmail has also eliminated the convenient links that were displayed 
> after logging in. These links would tell you the number of messages in 
> your
inbox
> without having to go to the inbox. Now you have no choice but to go 
> there
to
> see if you've got messages.
>
> Hotmail has also made sending messages more inconvenient. It used to 
> have
a
> "Send" button that could be reached with a single tab after typing 
> your message. Now, you have to go back to the message header to click 
> on the send.
>
> Bottom line? The "new and improved Hotmail" is a big step backwards in 
> screen-reader accessibility.
>
> Alan
>
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