Gerald, thanks. I'm not sure how often I've been in this exact situation, if ever, but after you and Robert have explained what kind of situation merits the use of this batch command, I'll try to recognize that kind of situation, and I'll have created a way to run the command. Why do you call it a desktop shortcut? If you mean an icon, that I can understand,though if I were without benefit of speech I'd hope to use a unique first letter for the name of the icon so I could activate it. And if what's meant is actually a hotkey, possibly established in the properties for such a shortcut icon, you wouldn't need to be at the desktop to use it. So do you mean the icon, or do you mean a hotkey? Also, in a crash that includes losing speech, what are you supposed to do once you've executed this batch file? Restart your computer, if an actual system crash is what's happened? Or just restart Jaws? And, not trying to be snarkey, but are the people discussing this able to tell whether it's only Jaws that's failed or if their computer needs rebooting or just one application is shutting down and asking you to send an error message? I can't read those dialogues if speech goes out, but I can tell whether it's just a program that's died on me or the computer's actually hung. thanks. Just trying to figure out exactly what kind of situation this is meant for. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:07 PM Subject: Re: KillJaws Kill Jaws is a desktop shortcut that invokes the XP system utility "taskkill" to forcibly close JAWS after a crash that results in loss of speech. Many times when JAWS crashes, an error message is displayed on screen which blocks JAWS from closing with the normal Insert + F4 command. Kill Jaws eliminates this problem by closing Jaws without having to respond to the error message. To create the shortcut, use the following target address: C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskkill.exe /f /im jfw.exe Hope this helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:25 PM Subject: Re: KillJaws > Gerald, > > I must have missed something. What is Kill Jaws? > > thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "JFW list" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:48 PM > Subject: KillJaws > > > > I just had a JAWS crash, and Kill Jaws worked like a charm. Very handy > when > sighted assistance is not available. > > -- > JFW related links: > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ > Scripting mailing list: > http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com > JFW List instructions: > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx