[jawsscripts] Re: TEST installer for JLS Utilities
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:02:36 +1100
Ah Soronel, hmm, tha'ts interesting.
thanks for responding to this. I haven't tried that screenReader yet. why
don't they use nicer Synths I wonder. anywayz, back to topic.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:57 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: TEST installer for JLS Utilities
> Jeff,
>
> I am eagerly watching nvda for just that reason. It's just at the
> point of being usable right now but improving quickly. The main thing
> I see holding NVDA back is voice quality, the OSS synthesis packages
> are still awful. But it's something both FS and GW had better watch
> or they will find themselves with a non-existent customer base.
>
> On 3/17/10, Geoff Chapman <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Jamal.
>>
>> Thanks very much for responding to my concerns so graciously and
>> promptly,
>> as you always seem to manage to do. I honestly don't know how you get
>> the
>> energy! <grin.>
>>
>> I'm sorry to hear it's not sounding like it's an easy thing to do. I
>> just
>> really think it would heighten people's desire to want to try things, if
>> they knew they had a reliable restore/uninstall path to follow, to get
>> their
>> systems back to the ways they were before installation.
>>
>> I guess because FS isn't in the business of providing scripts themselves,
>> that there providing such a decent installer/uninstaller, is low on
>> their
>> priority chain eh. <groan.> however, they respect you out there I'm
>> sure,
>> so perhaps your suggesting this might be helpful to them as
>> developer/customer feedback? for surely now, that gw have jumped on this
>> scripting bandWaggon as well, and that they're providing such a feature,
>> making it more attractive for third party scripters like yourself to
>> provide
>> solutions through use of one or other product, that fs would want to
>> begin
>> to compete, or at least not see their current edge be lost through better
>> and more flexible products offered by competitors?
>> might this not improve their impetous to wish to comply with customer
>> feedback more than before? or aren't they seeing the danger sufficiently
>> enough yet to make them concerned enough for this to become a reality do
>> you
>> think.
>>
>> Geoff c.
>>
>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:22 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: TEST installer for JLS Utilities
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, Geoff. It would, indeed, be desirable to have an easier way of
>>> uninstalling a particular script set (as opposed to running JAWS
>>> repair). Unfortunately, the way script sets can be merged with JSX
>>> makes it difficult to reliably restore everything to the prior state.
>>> I'll reflect on this problem though.
>>>
>>> To be honest, I wish FS would include a script packager and installer
>>> with JAWS, similar to how GW has done for Window-Eyes script packages.
>>> FS would be in the best position to do this, including an uninstall
>>> feature, in the most reliable manner. Unless or until that happens,
>>> however, I'll keep trying to improve JSX.
>>>
>>> Jamal
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/8/2010 9:48 PM, Geoff Chapman wrote:
>>>> Wow jamal! your amazing! how do you get the energy to do all these
>>>> things!
>>>> Thanks heaps for doing that eh. I will give this a shot myself now. I
>>>> was
>>>> also holding off a bit due to lazyness at working through the installer
>>>> necessities, which of course is rather shameful given that they're not
>>>> rocket science.<smile.> but, I will give this a shot.
>>>>
>>>> On this question of installers/uninstallers, given what you've recently
>>>> written Jamal, about the seeming comparative difficulty for non-techs,
>>>> of
>>>> uninstallation of a couple of your excellent utilities, like homer and
>>>> this
>>>> recent IEMax etc, does this mean that the JSX installer utility that I
>>>> believe you've built, does not as yet, have an uninstaller component
>>>> also?
>>>> and, if not, do you think this would be a helpful addition to people
>>>> wishing
>>>> to testDrive functionality of anything installed with it?
>>>> is this even possible would you say?
>>>>
>>>> just a thought.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again man so much for taking the time/effort to do this eh.
>>>> very
>>>> cool.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Geoff c.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jamal Mazrui"<empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:<JAWSScripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 4:21 AM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] TEST installer for JLS Utilities
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> In response to the interest expressed here in these free utilities
>>>>> from
>>>>> http://www.heartofiowa.net/~snowman/jls_utilities.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I have built an installer using JAWS Script Exchange from
>>>>> http://EmpowermentZone.com/jsxsetup.exe
>>>>>
>>>>> The installer is available for testing at
>>>>> http://empowermentzone.com/jls_utilities.exe
>>>>>
>>>>> Plese note that it uses the JSX merge feature, turning default.jss
>>>>> into
>>>>> a
>>>>> container file for both the FS and JLS scripts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on my testing, the installation seems to work. If anyone has
>>>>> feedback pro, con, or otherwise, please report to the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jamal
>>>>>
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