Unfortunately, FS has not shown receptiveness to supporting JAWS script developers. It baffles me why this is the case, since we bring additional value to the product,and competitors have ramped up their scripting capabilities such that there is now real competition in the area. I have respectfully communicated various developer suggestions to appropriate FS officials, including ideas collected from this list, and not even received an acknowledgement. Jamal -- Original Message -- ce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Geoff Chapman Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:35 AM To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: TEST installer for JLS Utilities Hi Jamal. Thanks very much for responding to my concerns so graciously and promptly, as you always seem to manage to do. I honestly don't know how you get the energy! <grin.> I'm sorry to hear it's not sounding like it's an easy thing to do. I just really think it would heighten people's desire to want to try things, if they knew they had a reliable restore/uninstall path to follow, to get their systems back to the ways they were before installation. I guess because FS isn't in the business of providing scripts themselves, that there providing such a decent installer/uninstaller, is low on their priority chain eh. <groan.> however, they respect you out there I'm sure, so perhaps your suggesting this might be helpful to them as developer/customer feedback? for surely now, that gw have jumped on this scripting bandWaggon as well, and that they're providing such a feature, making it more attractive for third party scripters like yourself to provide solutions through use of one or other product, that fs would want to begin to compete, or at least not see their current edge be lost through better and more flexible products offered by competitors? might this not improve their impetous to wish to comply with customer feedback more than before? or aren't they seeing the danger sufficiently enough yet to make them concerned enough for this to become a reality do you think. Geoff c. From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:22 AM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: TEST installer for JLS Utilities > Thanks, Geoff. It would, indeed, be desirable to have an easier way > of uninstalling a particular script set (as opposed to running JAWS > repair). Unfortunately, the way script sets can be merged with JSX > makes it difficult to reliably restore everything to the prior state. > I'll reflect on this problem though. > > To be honest, I wish FS would include a script packager and installer > with JAWS, similar to how GW has done for Window-Eyes script packages. > FS would be in the best position to do this, including an uninstall > feature, in the most reliable manner. Unless or until that happens, > however, I'll keep trying to improve JSX. > > Jamal > > > On 3/8/2010 9:48 PM, Geoff Chapman wrote: >> Wow jamal! your amazing! how do you get the energy to do all these >> things! >> Thanks heaps for doing that eh. I will give this a shot myself now. >> I was also holding off a bit due to lazyness at working through the >> installer necessities, which of course is rather shameful given that >> they're not rocket science.<smile.> but, I will give this a shot. >> >> On this question of installers/uninstallers, given what you've >> recently written Jamal, about the seeming comparative difficulty for >> non-techs, of uninstallation of a couple of your excellent utilities, >> like homer and this recent IEMax etc, does this mean that the JSX >> installer utility that I believe you've built, does not as yet, have >> an uninstaller component also? >> and, if not, do you think this would be a helpful addition to people >> wishing to testDrive functionality of anything installed with it? >> is this even possible would you say? >> >> just a thought. >> >> Thanks again man so much for taking the time/effort to do this eh. >> very cool. >> >> >> Geoff c. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jamal Mazrui"<empower@xxxxxxxxx> >> To:<JAWSScripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 4:21 AM >> Subject: [jawsscripts] TEST installer for JLS Utilities >> >> >>> In response to the interest expressed here in these free utilities >>> from http://www.heartofiowa.net/~snowman/jls_utilities.html >>> >>> I have built an installer using JAWS Script Exchange from >>> http://EmpowermentZone.com/jsxsetup.exe >>> >>> The installer is available for testing at >>> http://empowermentzone.com/jls_utilities.exe >>> >>> Plese note that it uses the JSX merge feature, turning default.jss >>> into a container file for both the FS and JLS scripts. >>> >>> Based on my testing, the installation seems to work. 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