[jawsscripts] Re: TEST installer for JLS Utilities
- From: Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:57:27 -0800
Jeff,
I am eagerly watching nvda for just that reason. It's just at the
point of being usable right now but improving quickly. The main thing
I see holding NVDA back is voice quality, the OSS synthesis packages
are still awful. But it's something both FS and GW had better watch
or they will find themselves with a non-existent customer base.
On 3/17/10, Geoff Chapman <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Jamal.
>
> Thanks very much for responding to my concerns so graciously and promptly,
> as you always seem to manage to do. I honestly don't know how you get the
> energy! <grin.>
>
> I'm sorry to hear it's not sounding like it's an easy thing to do. I just
> really think it would heighten people's desire to want to try things, if
> they knew they had a reliable restore/uninstall path to follow, to get their
> systems back to the ways they were before installation.
>
> I guess because FS isn't in the business of providing scripts themselves,
> that there providing such a decent installer/uninstaller, is low on their
> priority chain eh. <groan.> however, they respect you out there I'm sure,
> so perhaps your suggesting this might be helpful to them as
> developer/customer feedback? for surely now, that gw have jumped on this
> scripting bandWaggon as well, and that they're providing such a feature,
> making it more attractive for third party scripters like yourself to provide
> solutions through use of one or other product, that fs would want to begin
> to compete, or at least not see their current edge be lost through better
> and more flexible products offered by competitors?
> might this not improve their impetous to wish to comply with customer
> feedback more than before? or aren't they seeing the danger sufficiently
> enough yet to make them concerned enough for this to become a reality do you
> think.
>
> Geoff c.
>
> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:22 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: TEST installer for JLS Utilities
>
>
>> Thanks, Geoff. It would, indeed, be desirable to have an easier way of
>> uninstalling a particular script set (as opposed to running JAWS
>> repair). Unfortunately, the way script sets can be merged with JSX
>> makes it difficult to reliably restore everything to the prior state.
>> I'll reflect on this problem though.
>>
>> To be honest, I wish FS would include a script packager and installer
>> with JAWS, similar to how GW has done for Window-Eyes script packages.
>> FS would be in the best position to do this, including an uninstall
>> feature, in the most reliable manner. Unless or until that happens,
>> however, I'll keep trying to improve JSX.
>>
>> Jamal
>>
>>
>> On 3/8/2010 9:48 PM, Geoff Chapman wrote:
>>> Wow jamal! your amazing! how do you get the energy to do all these
>>> things!
>>> Thanks heaps for doing that eh. I will give this a shot myself now. I
>>> was
>>> also holding off a bit due to lazyness at working through the installer
>>> necessities, which of course is rather shameful given that they're not
>>> rocket science.<smile.> but, I will give this a shot.
>>>
>>> On this question of installers/uninstallers, given what you've recently
>>> written Jamal, about the seeming comparative difficulty for non-techs, of
>>> uninstallation of a couple of your excellent utilities, like homer and
>>> this
>>> recent IEMax etc, does this mean that the JSX installer utility that I
>>> believe you've built, does not as yet, have an uninstaller component
>>> also?
>>> and, if not, do you think this would be a helpful addition to people
>>> wishing
>>> to testDrive functionality of anything installed with it?
>>> is this even possible would you say?
>>>
>>> just a thought.
>>>
>>> Thanks again man so much for taking the time/effort to do this eh. very
>>> cool.
>>>
>>>
>>> Geoff c.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jamal Mazrui"<empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To:<JAWSScripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 4:21 AM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] TEST installer for JLS Utilities
>>>
>>>
>>>> In response to the interest expressed here in these free utilities from
>>>> http://www.heartofiowa.net/~snowman/jls_utilities.html
>>>>
>>>> I have built an installer using JAWS Script Exchange from
>>>> http://EmpowermentZone.com/jsxsetup.exe
>>>>
>>>> The installer is available for testing at
>>>> http://empowermentzone.com/jls_utilities.exe
>>>>
>>>> Plese note that it uses the JSX merge feature, turning default.jss into
>>>> a
>>>> container file for both the FS and JLS scripts.
>>>>
>>>> Based on my testing, the installation seems to work. If anyone has
>>>> feedback pro, con, or otherwise, please report to the list.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jamal
>>>>
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