[jawsscripts] Re: Everything you wanted... manual
- From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:35:11 -0700
I did share w/the list. What I said was that the manual of which u
speak is pretty out of date & recommended that u go to:
www.fsdn.com
& download their basics of scripting manual.
Pretty much what that consists of is the everything... manual +
updated materials as well.
On 6/30/08, Smith, Alice A. HQ DCO <Alice.A.Smith@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Please share with the list. I can't find it or a link to it in the =
> archives either.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon Brand=E3o =
> de Sousa
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:43 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
>
> While that manual is old it is not outdated, since the basics explained =
> there continues the same. What the manual actually misses are advansed =
> features of JAWS which, by the way, could be understood only vy folks =
> who already can understand what is going on in the basics.
> I do respect your opinion, and I have taken a look at the basics of =
> scripting. I still do think that the manual I pointed is better for =
> explaining newbies the basic stuff.
> I will try to send him the copy, plus if Jim Owmi is reading this I =
> would ask him to do this since he was trying to make a chm of it.
> Anyways I will send it in a couple of hours, if it isn't already sent by =
> that time.
> Marlon
>
>
> 2008/6/30, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> Jerry, that manual, while good, has been out of date *long ago. Go to:
>> www.fsdn.com
>> & download the basics of scripting manual from there.
>>
>> On 6/30/08, Jerry White, MBA <MidwayVI@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> OK, I give up! I cannot the manual mentioned below on the archive=20
>>> list, =3D any ideas what to search for? I have tried: Scripting=20
>>> Manual, Good =3D Scripting Manual, Always wanted to know about JAWS,=20
>>> about jaws, and just manual. =3D I either get over 900 matches, or a =
>
>>> few with no usable content. =3D20
>>>
>>> If nothing else, could anyone who has this manual e-mail it to me off =
>
>>> =3D list?
>>>
>>> All help is appreciated!
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon=20
>>> Brand=3DE3o =3D de Sousa
>>> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:01 AM
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> We indeed consider helping out a important thing. Your learning=20
>>> however should be conducted by yourself and we are here to support=20
>>> you during it. Please go look in this list archive for jaws scripting =
>
>>> manuals. The best one is called something like "everything you always =
>
>>> wanted to know about jaws but didn't know who to ask". I know folks=20
>>> here have a copy of it and this is one thing that you really should=20
>>> read in order to understand what goes on scripting.
>>> Marlon
>>>
>>> 2008/6/30, Stan Bobbitt <SBOBBITT@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> yes, that example code would be very helpful to me as well, thank=20
>>>> you =3D
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Stan
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:49 AM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> perhaps jamal, he may need some example code of just how he might=20
>>>>> go about this tracking though?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 10:33 PM
>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Then, can't your code keep track of how many ComboBoxes it has =3D
>>> found,
>>>>>> and consider the right one to be that number?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jamal
>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Jitendra
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:52:12 +0530
>>>>>> > From: Jitendra <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> > Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > yes, always third I think, as it is printed by winDig at the end =
>
>>>>>> > =3D
>>> after
>>>>> th=3D3D
>>>>>> e
>>>>>> > other 2, (useless).
>>>>>> > Jamal Mazrui wrote: Isn't the ComboBox of interest always in the =
>
>>>>>> > =3D
>>> same
>>>>>> > sequential order relative to the others, e.g., the second =3D
>>> ComboBox?
>>>>> Jamal=3D3D
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> > Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Jitendra wrote: Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008=20
>>>>>> > 12:34:37
>>> +0530
>>>>>> > From:Jitendra <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[1] Reply-To:
>>>>>> > jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[2] To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[3] =
> =3D
>>> Subject:
>>>>>> > [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID Thank you jacki, =
>
>>>>>> > I
>>> only
>>>>> w=3D3D
>>>>>> ant
>>>>>> > to set my focus, to that combo box, and the statisstics I gave =
> =3D
>>> does
>>> not
>>>>>> > change, Like: [1.10.1.1.1.5=20
>>>>>> > WindowsForms10.COMBOBOX.app.0.378734a]
>>>>> width,
>>>>>> > hite and any other thing. so, now what. this window has no name=20
>>>>>> > or
>>>>> prompt=3D3D
>>>>>> , I
>>>>>> > can find it by the class name, but the app has 3 combo boxes.=20
>>>>>> > and =3D
>>> for
>>>>> sur=3D3D
>>>>>> e,
>>>>>> > they all have their own properties like this one. the control id =
>
>>>>>> > changes
>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> > every app start. Thank, hope this info is enough, Glad to tell=20
>>>>>> > if =3D
>>> you
>>>>> wan=3D3D
>>>>>> t.
>>>>>> > Jackie McBride wrote: Jitendra: U know what? Perhaps it'd be a=20
>>>>>> > lot
>>>>> better=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>> > ifyou'd tell us precisely what you're trying to do here. This =
> =3D
>>> looks
>>>>>> > like
>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> > .netapp, from the type of window u gave in your last post. If=20
>>>>>> > what
>>>>> you're
>>>>>> > trying to do is find it, then that could be as simple a matter=20
>>>>>> > as
>>> doing
>>>>> a
>>>>>> > findWindow, using the appMainWindow as your starting point, or a =
>
>>>>>> > clickObjectByName, if in fact it has 1. Doug Lee's bx toolbox=20
>>>>>> > can =3D
>>> be
>>>>> used=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>> > toobtain lots &lots &lots &*lots! of info regarding just about
>>> anything
>>>>> u
>>>>>> > wannaknow about an app, its window hierarchy, whatever. On =3D
>>> 6/27/08,
>>>>> Jiten=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>> > dra <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[4][1] wrote: Hello, and thank=20
>>>>>> > you =3D
>>> all,
>>>>> an=3D3D
>>>>>> d
>>>>>> > Jamal sir, this is the info taken from the winDig output file, =
> =3D
>>> now,
>>> How
>>>>>> > should =3D3D3D I use this number and with which functions? Thank =
> =3D
>>> you. or
>>> it
>>>>> i=3D3D
>>>>>> s
>>>>>> > possible to usethese x or y info, or hite or width info to=20
>>>>>> > locate =3D
>>> that
>>>>> co=3D3D
>>>>>> mbo
>>>>>> > box? and what if this number changes in next winDig file if I =
> =3D
>>> creat.
>>>>>> > [1.10.1.1.1.5 WindowsForms10.COMBOBOX.app.0.378734a]
>>> alias=3D3D3D3DComboBox
>>>>>> > id=3D3D3D3D525072 selec=3D3D3D ted=3D3D3D3D1 x=3D3D3D3D7% =
> y=3D3D3D3D27% =3D
>>> width=3D3D3D3D11%
>>>>> height=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D2% Jamal
>>>>>> > Mazrui wrote: Yes, WinDig
>>>>> http://EmpowermentZone.com/wdsetup.exe[5][2][1]
>>>>>> > canhelp you understand the hierarchy of controls in an=20
>>>>>> > application
>>>>> window=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D2E
>>>>>> > Ituses an outline numberi=3D3D3D ng scheme to communicate this, =
> =3D
>>> e.g., the
>>>>> con=3D3D
>>>>>> trol
>>>>>> > at the level 1.2.3 means th=3D3D3D e third control contained in=20
>>>>>> > the =3D
>>> second
>>>>> co=3D3D
>>>>>> ntrol
>>>>>> > of the top-level window tha=3D3D3D t was analyzed. Jamal On Fri, =
>
>>>>>> > 27 =3D
>>> Jun
>>>>> 2008,
>>>>>> > Jitendra wrote: Date: Fri, 27 Ju=3D3D3D n 2008 17:49:41 +0530 =
> From:
>>>>>> > Jitendra
>>>>>> > <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[6][3][2] Reply-To:
>>>>>> > jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[7][4][3] To:
>>>>>> > jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[8][5][4]Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: =3D
>>> software
>>>>> wit=3D3D
>>>>>> h
>>>>>> > unfixedctrl ID I don't know about the hierarchy, and have never=20
>>>>>> > =3D
>>> used
>>>>> perh=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>> > aps in my scripts,so, where should I start from? does win dig =
> =3D
>>> helps me
>>>>> ou=3D3D
>>>>>> t
>>>>>> > init?and how. and if it changes, then what should I do. Thank =
> you.
>>>>> Marlon
>>>>>> > Brandão de Sousa wrote: Does the hierarchy change? If it
>>> doesn't
>>>>> t=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>> > hen you will need to start from the app main window and make all
>>> theway
>>>>> t=3D3D
>>>>>> o
>>>>>> > fo=3D3D3D cus or read the desired window. If the hierarchy does =
> =3D
>>> change
>>>>> thenit=3D3D
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>> > math=3D3D3D er of tryals and errors untill you find a static
>>>>> relationshipbetw=3D3D
>>>>>> een
>>>>>> > any components upon you can base your criteria to fin=3D3D3D3D d =
> a=20
>>>>>> > =3D
>>> given
>>>>> wind=3D3D
>>>>>> ow.
>>>>>> > Ma=3D3D3D rlon 2008/6/27, Jitendra
>>> <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[9][6][5][1]:
>>>>> H=3D3D
>>>>>> ello
>>>>>> > friends, =3D3D3D if there is a software that changes its control =
>
>>>>>> > id =3D
>>> like
>>>>> hand=3D3D
>>>>>> les,
>>>>>> > how would y=3D3D3D ou get text or any info out of it? and if =
> there=20
>>>>>> > =3D
>>> are
>>>>> n=3D3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>>> o
>>>>>> > standard window classes, and it is designed like NLite and has=20
>>>>>> > win
>>>>> classe=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>> > s: WindowsForms10.Window.8.app.0.378734a is it made in java? or
>>>>> something
>>>>>> > co=3D3D3D=3D3D3D3D uld be done with it? that sometime presents a =
>
>>>>>> > list =3D
>>> view
>>>>>> > using
>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> > winclass,andsometime some static text, and re-classing also =3D
>>> doesn't
>>>>> work,
>>>>>> > wh=3D3D3Dat to =3D3D3D3D do then? virtualising works, but if it =
> is a=20
>>>>>> > =3D
>>> list, or
>>>>> som=3D3D
>>>>>> e read
>>>>>> > onl=3D3D3D y typebox=3D3D3D3D , but jaws does not identifys it =
> that=20
>>>>>> > =3D
>>> way, and
>>> we
>>>>> n=3D3D
>>>>>> eed to
>>>>>> > scro=3D3D3D l downor up, then, in user buffer is it possible? =
> and=20
>>>>>> > if =3D
>>> there
>>>>> ar=3D3D
>>>>>> e
>>>>>> > withsam=3D3D3D e win class=3D3D3D3D , there some items to be=20
>>>>>> > clicked, =3D
>>> can we
>>>>> make=3D3D
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> > virtual p=3D3D3D lace to select =3D3D3D3D one item and then =
> press =3D
>>> enter, and
>>>>>> > the
>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>> user is
>>>>>> > then switche=3D3D3D d to the valid tab=3D3D3D3D ? Thank you. =
> Jitendra.
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