[jawsscripts] Everything you wanted... manual
- From: "Smith, Alice A. HQ DCO" <Alice.A.Smith@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:07:26 -0400
Please share with the list. I can't find it or a link to it in the =
archives either.
-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon Brand=E3o =
de Sousa
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:43 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
While that manual is old it is not outdated, since the basics explained =
there continues the same. What the manual actually misses are advansed =
features of JAWS which, by the way, could be understood only vy folks =
who already can understand what is going on in the basics.
I do respect your opinion, and I have taken a look at the basics of =
scripting. I still do think that the manual I pointed is better for =
explaining newbies the basic stuff.
I will try to send him the copy, plus if Jim Owmi is reading this I =
would ask him to do this since he was trying to make a chm of it.
Anyways I will send it in a couple of hours, if it isn't already sent by =
that time.
Marlon
2008/6/30, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Jerry, that manual, while good, has been out of date *long ago. Go to:
> www.fsdn.com
> & download the basics of scripting manual from there.
>
> On 6/30/08, Jerry White, MBA <MidwayVI@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> OK, I give up! I cannot the manual mentioned below on the archive=20
>> list, =3D any ideas what to search for? I have tried: Scripting=20
>> Manual, Good =3D Scripting Manual, Always wanted to know about JAWS,=20
>> about jaws, and just manual. =3D I either get over 900 matches, or a =
>> few with no usable content. =3D20
>>
>> If nothing else, could anyone who has this manual e-mail it to me off =
>> =3D list?
>>
>> All help is appreciated!
>> Jerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon=20
>> Brand=3DE3o =3D de Sousa
>> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:01 AM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
>>
>> Hello,
>> We indeed consider helping out a important thing. Your learning=20
>> however should be conducted by yourself and we are here to support=20
>> you during it. Please go look in this list archive for jaws scripting =
>> manuals. The best one is called something like "everything you always =
>> wanted to know about jaws but didn't know who to ask". I know folks=20
>> here have a copy of it and this is one thing that you really should=20
>> read in order to understand what goes on scripting.
>> Marlon
>>
>> 2008/6/30, Stan Bobbitt <SBOBBITT@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> yes, that example code would be very helpful to me as well, thank=20
>>> you =3D
>> ...
>>>
>>> Stan
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:49 AM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
>>>
>>>
>>>> perhaps jamal, he may need some example code of just how he might=20
>>>> go about this tracking though?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 10:33 PM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Then, can't your code keep track of how many ComboBoxes it has =3D
>> found,
>>>>> and consider the right one to be that number?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jamal
>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Jitendra
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:52:12 +0530
>>>>> > From: Jitendra <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > yes, always third I think, as it is printed by winDig at the end =
>>>>> > =3D
>> after
>>>> th=3D3D
>>>>> e
>>>>> > other 2, (useless).
>>>>> > Jamal Mazrui wrote: Isn't the ComboBox of interest always in the =
>>>>> > =3D
>> same
>>>>> > sequential order relative to the others, e.g., the second =3D
>> ComboBox?
>>>> Jamal=3D3D
>>>>> On
>>>>> > Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Jitendra wrote: Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008=20
>>>>> > 12:34:37
>> +0530
>>>>> > From:Jitendra <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[1] Reply-To:
>>>>> > jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[2] To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[3] =
=3D
>> Subject:
>>>>> > [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID Thank you jacki, =
>>>>> > I
>> only
>>>> w=3D3D
>>>>> ant
>>>>> > to set my focus, to that combo box, and the statisstics I gave =
=3D
>> does
>> not
>>>>> > change, Like: [1.10.1.1.1.5=20
>>>>> > WindowsForms10.COMBOBOX.app.0.378734a]
>>>> width,
>>>>> > hite and any other thing. so, now what. this window has no name=20
>>>>> > or
>>>> prompt=3D3D
>>>>> , I
>>>>> > can find it by the class name, but the app has 3 combo boxes.=20
>>>>> > and =3D
>> for
>>>> sur=3D3D
>>>>> e,
>>>>> > they all have their own properties like this one. the control id =
>>>>> > changes
>>>> =3D3D
>>>>> on
>>>>> > every app start. Thank, hope this info is enough, Glad to tell=20
>>>>> > if =3D
>> you
>>>> wan=3D3D
>>>>> t.
>>>>> > Jackie McBride wrote: Jitendra: U know what? Perhaps it'd be a=20
>>>>> > lot
>>>> better=3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> > ifyou'd tell us precisely what you're trying to do here. This =
=3D
>> looks
>>>>> > like
>>>> =3D3D
>>>>> a
>>>>> > .netapp, from the type of window u gave in your last post. If=20
>>>>> > what
>>>> you're
>>>>> > trying to do is find it, then that could be as simple a matter=20
>>>>> > as
>> doing
>>>> a
>>>>> > findWindow, using the appMainWindow as your starting point, or a =
>>>>> > clickObjectByName, if in fact it has 1. Doug Lee's bx toolbox=20
>>>>> > can =3D
>> be
>>>> used=3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> > toobtain lots &lots &lots &*lots! of info regarding just about
>> anything
>>>> u
>>>>> > wannaknow about an app, its window hierarchy, whatever. On =3D
>> 6/27/08,
>>>> Jiten=3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> > dra <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[4][1] wrote: Hello, and thank=20
>>>>> > you =3D
>> all,
>>>> an=3D3D
>>>>> d
>>>>> > Jamal sir, this is the info taken from the winDig output file, =
=3D
>> now,
>> How
>>>>> > should =3D3D3D I use this number and with which functions? Thank =
=3D
>> you. or
>> it
>>>> i=3D3D
>>>>> s
>>>>> > possible to usethese x or y info, or hite or width info to=20
>>>>> > locate =3D
>> that
>>>> co=3D3D
>>>>> mbo
>>>>> > box? and what if this number changes in next winDig file if I =
=3D
>> creat.
>>>>> > [1.10.1.1.1.5 WindowsForms10.COMBOBOX.app.0.378734a]
>> alias=3D3D3D3DComboBox
>>>>> > id=3D3D3D3D525072 selec=3D3D3D ted=3D3D3D3D1 x=3D3D3D3D7% =
y=3D3D3D3D27% =3D
>> width=3D3D3D3D11%
>>>> height=3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D3D2% Jamal
>>>>> > Mazrui wrote: Yes, WinDig
>>>> http://EmpowermentZone.com/wdsetup.exe[5][2][1]
>>>>> > canhelp you understand the hierarchy of controls in an=20
>>>>> > application
>>>> window=3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D2E
>>>>> > Ituses an outline numberi=3D3D3D ng scheme to communicate this, =
=3D
>> e.g., the
>>>> con=3D3D
>>>>> trol
>>>>> > at the level 1.2.3 means th=3D3D3D e third control contained in=20
>>>>> > the =3D
>> second
>>>> co=3D3D
>>>>> ntrol
>>>>> > of the top-level window tha=3D3D3D t was analyzed. Jamal On Fri, =
>>>>> > 27 =3D
>> Jun
>>>> 2008,
>>>>> > Jitendra wrote: Date: Fri, 27 Ju=3D3D3D n 2008 17:49:41 +0530 =
From:
>>>>> > Jitendra
>>>>> > <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[6][3][2] Reply-To:
>>>>> > jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[7][4][3] To:
>>>>> > jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[8][5][4]Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: =3D
>> software
>>>> wit=3D3D
>>>>> h
>>>>> > unfixedctrl ID I don't know about the hierarchy, and have never=20
>>>>> > =3D
>> used
>>>> perh=3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> > aps in my scripts,so, where should I start from? does win dig =
=3D
>> helps me
>>>> ou=3D3D
>>>>> t
>>>>> > init?and how. and if it changes, then what should I do. Thank =
you.
>>>> Marlon
>>>>> > Brandão de Sousa wrote: Does the hierarchy change? If it
>> doesn't
>>>> t=3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> > hen you will need to start from the app main window and make all
>> theway
>>>> t=3D3D
>>>>> o
>>>>> > fo=3D3D3D cus or read the desired window. If the hierarchy does =
=3D
>> change
>>>> thenit=3D3D
>>>>> is a
>>>>> > math=3D3D3D er of tryals and errors untill you find a static
>>>> relationshipbetw=3D3D
>>>>> een
>>>>> > any components upon you can base your criteria to fin=3D3D3D3D d =
a=20
>>>>> > =3D
>> given
>>>> wind=3D3D
>>>>> ow.
>>>>> > Ma=3D3D3D rlon 2008/6/27, Jitendra
>> <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[9][6][5][1]:
>>>> H=3D3D
>>>>> ello
>>>>> > friends, =3D3D3D if there is a software that changes its control =
>>>>> > id =3D
>> like
>>>> hand=3D3D
>>>>> les,
>>>>> > how would y=3D3D3D ou get text or any info out of it? and if =
there=20
>>>>> > =3D
>> are
>>>> n=3D3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>> o
>>>>> > standard window classes, and it is designed like NLite and has=20
>>>>> > win
>>>> classe=3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>> > s: WindowsForms10.Window.8.app.0.378734a is it made in java? or
>>>> something
>>>>> > co=3D3D3D=3D3D3D3D uld be done with it? that sometime presents a =
>>>>> > list =3D
>> view
>>>>> > using
>>>> =3D3D
>>>>> same
>>>>> > winclass,andsometime some static text, and re-classing also =3D
>> doesn't
>>>> work,
>>>>> > wh=3D3D3Dat to =3D3D3D3D do then? virtualising works, but if it =
is a=20
>>>>> > =3D
>> list, or
>>>> som=3D3D
>>>>> e read
>>>>> > onl=3D3D3D y typebox=3D3D3D3D , but jaws does not identifys it =
that=20
>>>>> > =3D
>> way, and
>> we
>>>> n=3D3D
>>>>> eed to
>>>>> > scro=3D3D3D l downor up, then, in user buffer is it possible? =
and=20
>>>>> > if =3D
>> there
>>>> ar=3D3D
>>>>> e
>>>>> > withsam=3D3D3D e win class=3D3D3D3D , there some items to be=20
>>>>> > clicked, =3D
>> can we
>>>> make=3D3D
>>>>> some
>>>>> > virtual p=3D3D3D lace to select =3D3D3D3D one item and then =
press =3D
>> enter, and
>>>>> > the
>>>> =3D3D
>>>>> user is
>>>>> > then switche=3D3D3D d to the valid tab=3D3D3D3D ? Thank you. =
Jitendra.
>>>> __________=3D3D
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