[jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID

Jerry, that manual, while good, has been out of date *long ago. Go to:
www.fsdn.com
& download the basics of scripting manual from there.

On 6/30/08, Jerry White, MBA <MidwayVI@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> OK, I give up!  I cannot the manual mentioned below on the archive list, =
> any
> ideas what to search for?  I have tried: Scripting Manual, Good =
> Scripting
> Manual, Always wanted to know about JAWS, about jaws, and just manual.  =
> I
> either get over 900 matches, or a few with no usable content. =20
>
> If nothing else, could anyone who has this manual e-mail it to me off =
> list?
>
> All help is appreciated!
> Jerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon Brand=E3o =
> de
> Sousa
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:01 AM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
>
> Hello,
> We indeed consider helping out a important thing. Your learning
> however should be conducted by yourself and we are here to support you
> during it. Please go look in this list archive for jaws scripting
> manuals. The best one is called something like "everything you always
> wanted to know about jaws but didn't know who to ask". I know folks
> here have a copy of it and this is one thing that you really should
> read in order to understand what goes on scripting.
> Marlon
>
> 2008/6/30, Stan Bobbitt <SBOBBITT@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> yes, that example code would be very helpful to me as well, thank you =
> ...
>>
>> Stan
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:49 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
>>
>>
>>> perhaps jamal, he may need some example code of  just
>>> how he might go about this tracking though?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 10:33 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
>>>
>>>
>>>> Then, can't your code keep track of how many ComboBoxes it has =
> found,
>>>> and consider the right one to be that number?
>>>>
>>>> Jamal
>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Jitendra
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:52:12 +0530
>>>> > From: Jitendra <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > yes, always third I think, as it is printed by winDig at the end =
> after
>>> th=3D
>>>> e
>>>> > other 2, (useless).
>>>> > Jamal Mazrui wrote: Isn't the ComboBox of interest always in the =
> same
>>>> > sequential order relative to the others, e.g., the second =
> ComboBox?
>>> Jamal=3D
>>>>  On
>>>> > Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Jitendra wrote: Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:34:37
> +0530
>>>> > From:Jitendra <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[1] Reply-To:
>>>> > jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[2] To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[3] =
> Subject:
>>>> > [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID Thank you jacki, I
> only
>>> w=3D
>>>> ant
>>>> > to set my focus, to that combo box, and the statisstics I gave =
> does
> not
>>>> > change, Like: [1.10.1.1.1.5 WindowsForms10.COMBOBOX.app.0.378734a]
>>> width,
>>>> > hite and any other thing. so, now what. this window has no name or
>>> prompt=3D
>>>> , I
>>>> > can find it by the class name, but the app has 3 combo boxes. and =
> for
>>> sur=3D
>>>> e,
>>>> > they all have their own properties like this one. the control id
>>>> > changes
>>> =3D
>>>> on
>>>> > every app start. Thank, hope this info is enough, Glad to tell if =
> you
>>> wan=3D
>>>> t.
>>>> > Jackie McBride wrote: Jitendra: U know what? Perhaps it'd be a lot
>>> better=3D
>>>> =3D3D
>>>> > ifyou'd tell us precisely what you're trying to do here. This =
> looks
>>>> > like
>>> =3D
>>>> a
>>>> > .netapp, from the type of window u gave in your last post. If what
>>> you're
>>>> > trying to do is find it, then that could be as simple a matter as
> doing
>>> a
>>>> > findWindow, using the appMainWindow as your starting point, or a
>>>> > clickObjectByName, if in fact it has 1. Doug Lee's bx toolbox can =
> be
>>> used=3D
>>>> =3D3D
>>>> > toobtain lots &lots &lots &*lots! of info regarding just about
> anything
>>> u
>>>> > wannaknow about an app, its window hierarchy, whatever. On =
> 6/27/08,
>>> Jiten=3D
>>>> =3D3D
>>>> > dra <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[4][1] wrote: Hello, and thank you =
> all,
>>> an=3D
>>>> d
>>>> > Jamal sir, this is the info taken from the winDig output file, =
> now,
> How
>>>> > should =3D3D I use this number and with which functions? Thank =
> you. or
> it
>>> i=3D
>>>> s
>>>> > possible to usethese x or y info, or hite or width info to locate =
> that
>>> co=3D
>>>> mbo
>>>> > box? and what if this number changes in next winDig file if I =
> creat.
>>>> > [1.10.1.1.1.5 WindowsForms10.COMBOBOX.app.0.378734a]
> alias=3D3D3DComboBox
>>>> > id=3D3D3D525072 selec=3D3D ted=3D3D3D1 x=3D3D3D7% y=3D3D3D27% =
> width=3D3D3D11%
>>> height=3D
>>>> =3D3D3D2% Jamal
>>>> > Mazrui wrote: Yes, WinDig
>>> http://EmpowermentZone.com/wdsetup.exe[5][2][1]
>>>> > canhelp you understand the hierarchy of controls in an application
>>> window=3D
>>>> =3D2E
>>>> > Ituses an outline numberi=3D3D ng scheme to communicate this, =
> e.g., the
>>> con=3D
>>>> trol
>>>> > at the level 1.2.3 means th=3D3D e third control contained in the =
> second
>>> co=3D
>>>> ntrol
>>>> > of the top-level window tha=3D3D t was analyzed. Jamal On Fri, 27 =
> Jun
>>> 2008,
>>>> > Jitendra wrote: Date: Fri, 27 Ju=3D3D n 2008 17:49:41 +0530 From:
>>>> > Jitendra
>>>> > <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[6][3][2] Reply-To:
>>>> > jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[7][4][3] To:
>>>> > jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[8][5][4]Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: =
> software
>>> wit=3D
>>>> h
>>>> > unfixedctrl ID I don't know about the hierarchy, and have never =
> used
>>> perh=3D
>>>> =3D3D
>>>> > aps in my scripts,so, where should I start from? does win dig =
> helps me
>>> ou=3D
>>>> t
>>>> > init?and how. and if it changes, then what should I do. Thank you.
>>> Marlon
>>>> > Brand&atilde;o de Sousa wrote: Does the hierarchy change? If it
> doesn't
>>> t=3D
>>>> =3D3D
>>>> > hen you will need to start from the app main window and make all
> theway
>>> t=3D
>>>> o
>>>> > fo=3D3D cus or read the desired window. If the hierarchy does =
> change
>>> thenit=3D
>>>>  is a
>>>> > math=3D3D er of tryals and errors untill you find a static
>>> relationshipbetw=3D
>>>> een
>>>> > any components upon you can base your criteria to fin=3D3D3D d a =
> given
>>> wind=3D
>>>> ow.
>>>> > Ma=3D3D rlon 2008/6/27, Jitendra
> <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[9][6][5][1]:
>>> H=3D
>>>> ello
>>>> > friends, =3D3D if there is a software that changes its control id =
> like
>>> hand=3D
>>>> les,
>>>> > how would y=3D3D ou get text or any info out of it? and if there =
> are
>>> n=3D3D3D=3D
>>>>  o
>>>> > standard window classes, and it is designed like NLite and has win
>>> classe=3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>> > s: WindowsForms10.Window.8.app.0.378734a is it made in java? or
>>> something
>>>> > co=3D3D=3D3D3D uld be done with it? that sometime presents a list =
> view
>>>> > using
>>> =3D
>>>> same
>>>> > winclass,andsometime some static text, and re-classing also =
> doesn't
>>> work,
>>>> > wh=3D3Dat to =3D3D3D do then? virtualising works, but if it is a =
> list, or
>>> som=3D
>>>> e read
>>>> > onl=3D3D y typebox=3D3D3D , but jaws does not identifys it that =
> way, and
> we
>>> n=3D
>>>> eed to
>>>> > scro=3D3D l downor up, then, in user buffer is it possible? and if =
> there
>>> ar=3D
>>>> e
>>>> > withsam=3D3D e win class=3D3D3D , there some items to be clicked, =
> can we
>>> make=3D
>>>>  some
>>>> > virtual p=3D3D lace to select =3D3D3D one item and then press =
> enter, and
>>>> > the
>>> =3D
>>>> user is
>>>> > then switche=3D3D d to the valid tab=3D3D3D ? Thank you. Jitendra.
>>> __________=3D
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