I must have been very lucky. I downloaded the update and have had no problems. Norman. ----- Original Message ----- From: "TIDDYogg" <oggy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 7:16 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws is broken! > The problem is probably only that Jaws doesn't now start > automatifcally. (See my post regarding jaws 7.1 uninstall. I know > it's a pig, but if this is the case, here's a suggestion. Find your > desktop icon for your current, working version of Jaws. Rename it, > using the F2 key to something beginning with X. > Install the new Jaws. We must assume it's in and working, just not > talking. > Close it with insert+F4. > Push windows key+M to get to the desk top. > Push x then return, wait for your old Jaws to start, then you at least > have speech. > Note that everyy new version of Jaws is full of bugs, and it's far > better to wait until they've all been sorted before downloading updates. > > > TOM REID wrote: >> Hi Martin, >> >> Try getting narrator started, windows key plus U. Then either get your >> earlier jaws started or go to system restore with narrator. >> >> Start, programmes, accessories, system inf, system restore. If you can't >> get >> today's restore point, keep hitting tab and you will eventually get to >> shows >> previous day. Hit that and then next and next again. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Tom >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:51 PM >> Subject: [jaws-uk] jaws is broken! >> >> >> >>> `Hi list: >>> installing jaws eight over a copy of jaws 7.10. I installed jaws eight, >>> and the pc rebooted. then jaws didn't speak. I waited for ages, but >>> nothing happened. subsequent reboots produced no result. now I am using >>> my laptop to compose this message of frustrated anger at Freedom >>> scientific. I have had more problems with jaws updates than with any >>> other programme. I do not see how jaws can be installable on one update >>> then broken the next. I am now without my desktop pc. I need to get >>> sighted assistance resolve this problem, and that's not easy to come by. >>> I am just glad I backed everything up onto a removable drive before I >>> installed jaws eight. I am very angry and upset with this programme. I >>> am able to use kerzwiel 1000 on my desktop, and it receives emails fine, >>> so it's not a pc problem. Why is it that jaws for windows causes so >>> many >>> problems when updating? I am furious and angry that we have to pay so >>> much for a programme that breaks down so often in critical si >>> tuations. I have had data execution errors because of jaws, and no >>> speech >>> at all, and constant hassle with jaws. I don't know what to do with >>> this >>> situation. I will get assistance, maybe Monday, maybe Tuesday, I don't >>> know. before that though, I have the weekend, and I'm thoroughly anoyed >>> with this programme. If anyone else has had this problem, where >>> installing jaws causes the pc not to speak, then please let me know. >>> The >>> problem is, narrator is so dreadful that diagnosing the problem is not >>> possible for someone with no sight. As you can guess, I'm very upset. >>> >>> Hope to hear from you soon. >>> >>> from Martin. >>> >>> Please email me at: >>> >>> m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> if you're interested in discussing everything soft toy animal related, >>> please visit my group at: >>> >>> http://groups.msn.com/thesofttoyanimalcollectorsgroup >>> >>> please visit my website: >>> >>> www.martin-wilsher.co.uk >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/536 - Release Date: >>> 16/11/2006 >>> >>> >>> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> >> >> >> > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq