Andrew, What instructions were you given. What ports were you given? What's the application you're trying to use? Looks to me that you're getting confused. Didn't you pass the ISA exam?? S -----Original Message----- From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:43 PM To: ISA Mailing List Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org Shawn, Thanks for the info. However if I take the port information I received for this company and add it into a Linksys router setting for TCP the connection works. Of course your everyday mickey mouse routers don't bother customers with the inbound/outbound non-sense that you are putting me though. I guess I could always go back my Linksys router if I needed to... Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:36 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org And again, that completely depends on how the protocol that you are trying to define for ISA works. You need to find out how exactly this protocol you're talking about works. If you initiate an outbound connection with said protocol and said protocol tries to initiate an inbound protocol on a different port then you use secondary connections (look at how active ftp works for example). If an inbound connection is coming that was initiated from an external host then you need to have an inbound access rule to allow it in, otherwise you ain't getting jack from that host. Secondary protocols are only relevant from connections initiated from your internal network. For anything initiated from an external host you will need an inbound rule. ----- Robert Bosch Corporation Technical Systems Analyst (RBNA/CSA1) Corporate Sales Reporting Systems 38000 Hills Tech Drive - Farmington Hills, MI 48331 - USA phone: 1 (248) 553-1164 fax: 1 (248) 848-6969 shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.bosch.us -----Original Message----- From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:23 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org Okay you open ISA 2004 Server, click on the task pane on the right hand side, click on Protocol, click new and protocol, then give it a name, then assign the ports you need to open. In my case I was told TCP / Inbound but as I found out from testing it that it should be Outbound otherwise the computer on the LAN doesn't get out which it's suppose do it. If I need to add the Inbound can I a) add the inbound ports to the secondary connection or b) do I have to start over with creating a new protocol adding the Inbound ports to it? Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 4:00 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org As usual, the question remains unanswered - exactly how does the protocol in question operate? Whether you use secondary protocols depends on whether or not more than one protocol is used. The word "protocol" is a bit vague in your context. ------------------------------------------------------- Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! ------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:25 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org I have been told by the company who uses the IPs I need to setup to use TCP/Inbound, however I when setup the protocol and monitor it nothing goes out until I change the Inbound to Outbound. So my question still stands do I need to create a new protocol or can I add the inbound to the secondary connections? 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