Andrew.. Can you understand why you don't get support from the ISA experts here when you ask "how do I play warcraft from behind my ISA firewall". These people do actually care what the purpose of ISA is and most will use it for its proper purpose as intended by Microsoft, who btw Jim works for :).. Having said all that, you should be able to work out then if you understood ISA, based on the link Jim provided you which was *gasp* the faq for the game you are trying to play, how to configure the firewall.. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:39 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org Jim, Uhm you know it doesn't surprise me this list isn't more active than it should be with the comments to make to me and others such as the ones below. If you don't want to help I am not holding a gun to your head forcing you to give me an answer, so don't help if you don't have any worth while saying because it only reflects on your character which is making you look pretty bad at this point. You don't see Tom stooping to your level when people ask questions here do you? Btw, thanks for clarifying the basic training, I must have missed the thread on the ISA beta exam since I don't take the time here to read every post and make rude and unintelligent comments like some people do. Maybe you could do something useful like post the exams link up again? Regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:45 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org Doesn't that just figure - that's not the ISA beta exam - that was (at best) "basic training". You still have your Kindergarten Equivalency Diploma, too? ..must ..learn ..to ..use ..google... http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww0790p ..or maybe even... http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01154p <gasp> - 15 seconds of typing - I may need a nap after this... -----Original Message----- From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 6:39 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org Steve, World of Warcraft Ports I was told: 3724 TCP Inbound 6112 TCP Inbound 6881-6999 TCP Inbound Initially the guys said Inbound/Outbound then changed his mind to Inbound. This doesn't make any sense to me since WoW needs to talk to them on the outbound to get things started. As far as the exam I took the test one which was posted here a month or so ago, the one which was interactive then asked you a bunch of questions at the end, then MS gave you a certificate. If you were referring to something else I apologize but for the confusion. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:54 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org Andrew, What instructions were you given. What ports were you given? What's the application you're trying to use? Looks to me that you're getting confused. Didn't you pass the ISA exam?? S -----Original Message----- From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:43 PM To: ISA Mailing List Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org Shawn, Thanks for the info. However if I take the port information I received for this company and add it into a Linksys router setting for TCP the connection works. Of course your everyday mickey mouse routers don't bother customers with the inbound/outbound non-sense that you are putting me though. I guess I could always go back my Linksys router if I needed to... Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:36 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org And again, that completely depends on how the protocol that you are trying to define for ISA works. You need to find out how exactly this protocol you're talking about works. If you initiate an outbound connection with said protocol and said protocol tries to initiate an inbound protocol on a different port then you use secondary connections (look at how active ftp works for example). If an inbound connection is coming that was initiated from an external host then you need to have an inbound access rule to allow it in, otherwise you ain't getting jack from that host. Secondary protocols are only relevant from connections initiated from your internal network. For anything initiated from an external host you will need an inbound rule. ----- Robert Bosch Corporation Technical Systems Analyst (RBNA/CSA1) Corporate Sales Reporting Systems 38000 Hills Tech Drive - Farmington Hills, MI 48331 - USA phone: 1 (248) 553-1164 fax: 1 (248) 848-6969 shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.bosch.us -----Original Message----- From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:23 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org Okay you open ISA 2004 Server, click on the task pane on the right hand side, click on Protocol, click new and protocol, then give it a name, then assign the ports you need to open. In my case I was told TCP / Inbound but as I found out from testing it that it should be Outbound otherwise the computer on the LAN doesn't get out which it's suppose do it. If I need to add the Inbound can I a) add the inbound ports to the secondary connection or b) do I have to start over with creating a new protocol adding the Inbound ports to it? Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 4:00 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org As usual, the question remains unanswered - exactly how does the protocol in question operate? Whether you use secondary protocols depends on whether or not more than one protocol is used. The word "protocol" is a bit vague in your context. ------------------------------------------------------- Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! ------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:25 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question http://www.ISAserver.org I have been told by the company who uses the IPs I need to setup to use TCP/Inbound, however I when setup the protocol and monitor it nothing goes out until I change the Inbound to Outbound. So my question still stands do I need to create a new protocol or can I add the inbound to the secondary connections? 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