doesn't ISA also let you use the ip address instead of the dns name. I've set it that way before and managed connectivity successfully when the dns was flaky. Steve Steve Moffat 7 Boss's Cove Road Pembroke HM01 Bermuda Tel: 441 292 8240 Fax: 441 292 0455 steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.optimum.mine.nu Get me on msn messenger - steve_moffat66@xxxxxxxxxxx There was once a young man who, in his youth, professed his desire to become a great writer. When asked to define great, he said, "I want to write stuff that the whole world will read, stuff that people will react to on a truly emotional level, stuff that will make them scream, cry, howl in pain and anger!" He now works for a major software house writing error messages.