Re: MSN game zone not working for internal clients

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 07:44:49 -0700

RE: [isalist] Re: Block porn sites from ISA.....I'd agree with you; it sounds 
like a routing problem from your WLAN.
Do the WLAN clients show any errors in their FW clients?

Jim Harrison
MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison/
Read the books!

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Cheeseman 
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  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:38 AM
  Subject: [isalist] Re: MSN game zone not working for internal clients


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  I discovered quite by trial and error that SecureNAT could not connect to the 
game server whilst the Firewall client could. Regardless of the changes and 
protocol rules I made. I then went to the clients location and added the 
firewall client thinking the problem would be solved. No Luck. :(  The problem 
seems to lie in the subnetting and routing.

  I manage a WLAN covering about 1000 sq. miles all connected wirelessly. Each 
POP is a different subnet i.e.: 192.168.2.x, 192.168.3.x, etc. Static routes on 
the ISA server allow all the subnets to get an IP address thru DHCP and gain 
access to the Internet. The only thing not working is Games servers on subnets 
greater than 192.168.1.x. The ISA internal card is bound to 192.168.1.254.

  Typical scenario,

  customer is behind Dlink Broadband router and has address 192.168.0.100
  Dlink LAN side has 192.168.0.1 and WLAN side has address 192.168.3.1 gateway 
192.168.3.10
  radio connects to POP which has internal of 192.168.3.10 and external of 
192.168.1.10 and a static route to 192.168.1.254

  Not sure if this helps explain the problem or not.

  Thanx,

  Bob



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
    Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:51 AM
    To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
    Subject: [isalist] Re: MSN game zone not working for internal clients


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    SecureNAT clients are limited to simple protocols; no secondary connections 
allowed.
    Off-subnet traffic is a different issue; you'll have to enter a manual 
route for ISA to talk to those clients.
    If you're using RRAS on the ISA, enter them there, otherwise, use a "route 
-p add" command to add them.

    Jim Harrison
    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
    http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison/
    Read the books!

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Bob Cheeseman 
      To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] 
      Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:02 AM
      Subject: [isalist] Re: MSN game zone not working for internal clients


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      Jim,

      What I have found is that a client on the same internal subnet 
(192.168.1.x) as the server with the firewall client installed can use games, 
but a secure NAT client on the same internal subnet (192.168.1.x)  cannot. 
Also, a secure NAT client on a different subnet (192.168.3.x) even with the 
firewall client cannot connect.

      I have many DHCP and static assigned clients on various subnets and use 
static routes to give then access. Everything seems to work except MSN Game 
Zone.
      Could it be that I need to bind an address from each subnet to the 
internal card and add it to the local address table?
      Any thoughts?


      Thanx,

      Bob
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
        Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:49 PM
        To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
        Subject: [isalist] Re: MSN game zone not working for internal clients


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        If you choose one of the first three as the primary port for a new 
protocol definition, you can then add a range of ports in the secondary 
connections.

        Jim Harrison
        MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
        http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison/
        Read the books!

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Bob Cheeseman 
          To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] 
          Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:19 PM
          Subject: [isalist] MSN game zone not working for internal clients


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          Hi,

          Subject says it all. Login to MSN Game zone tries forever and 
connection to server responds with "unspecified error"

          Knowledge base says open ports 80,443,6667, and 28800-29100. I 
haven't figured out how to open a range of ports however.

          Any pointers appreciated.

          Thanx,

          Bob Cheeseman
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