Agreed with the "best fit solution". I chose postfix cause I wanted to learn something and now it hums like your... I have two philosiphys on this. My home mail, ggf you aint getting an ndr from me, work is totally different, people rely on ndr's at least at my work so horses for sauces! Greg Mulholland Just because I don't care, doesn't mean i dont understand - Homer Simpson -----Original Message----- From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:47 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: How I spent my Christmas vacation - Email found in subject http://www.ISAserver.org Dude- you're splitting hairs now... I dig the secure update deal, but come on... We can do it how we want to... If you need to send NDR's like Dan Ball does, then go right ahead. If folks don't like it, then let them handle the mail for him. If you want to accept all mail with a catch-all, then do that. IIS does it standing still. I do that in combination with my SpamArrest account. John T doesn't like it, nor does Jim, but until someone wants to host my mail for free, then that's just the way it is. There is no *right* way... RFC is great, but in the real world we do what we need to do to suit our needs. But I'll be damned if I'll sit back and let some shit-kicker bust on Dr. S after all of his hard work in this forum 'cause he thinks his tin foil hat is wrapped tight on his head. t ----- "I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Mulholland" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:14 AM Subject: [isalist] Re: How I spent my Christmas vacation - Email found in subject http://www.ISAserver.org Your still wasting bandwidth on accepting mail you don't want. Real gateways that allow secure dynamic or even if they are static lists which update the local recipients file at the gateway are the way to go..and by secure im not talking about ldap queries so much, thee are other ways. Postfix does it standing on its head. I havent seen IIS compete with it yet. Greg Mulholland Just because I don't care, doesn't mean i dont understand - Homer Simpson -----Original Message----- From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 6:00 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: How I spent my Christmas vacation - Email found in subject http://www.ISAserver.org >OK, so you DO NOT send NDRs, yet with your IIS platform you *cannot* >turn off NDRs. Lets get this straight, you have turned off NDRs on a >platform that you *cannot* turn off NDRs. Cool. Did someone here piss you off or something? It may just be me, but you're coming off like a real prick... I don't mean that in a mean way, but man, chill out a bit... Regarding IIS SMTP, you can most certainly "turn off" NDR's by simply setting up a "Catch All" email address that accepts all mail for recipients that don't exist. Done. End of Story. No LDAP sync, nothing. No BADMAIL, nothing. Just schedule the deletion of the mailbox dir. You can also have the receiving server dirt-nap DNS. No NDR's. Done. 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