[PCB_FORUM] Re: System requirements for 15.2
- From: "Dal Locke" <dlocke@xxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:46:14 -0500
I have also seen the very long delays when sliding certain diff pairs also
on large designs. I found the problem is caused by positive dynamic shapes in
close proximity somewhere in the design to the diff pair signal. I believe the
drc and healing function is slowing it down even when the slide is not close to
the shape. I moved the positive dynamic shape off the board temporarily and
everything is back to speed. We do very large designs on Dell Xeon 2 ghz 1 GB
computers with dual nvidia monitors no problem. I also have a nice switch box
that is controlled by the scroll lock button that swithes one monitor to
another computer because the main computer does not have dual processors. I
got it at Fry's for about $40 and it is made by Ingear.
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From: george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:44 PM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: System requirements for 15.2
I have a dual 2.66 GHz Xeons w/ 2 GB of memory. I still get lags on large
boards with lots of planes. I am going to try 3 GB of memory (the most I can
stick in it), but there was almost NO improvement from 1 GB to 2, so I don't
think that's going to help :(
There are some differential pairs that have a 20 second lag in them from the
time I start sliding to the time they actually move.
Sure would be nice if Cadence would multi-thread Allegro so it could actually
USE both processors. It's going to get worse as Intel switches to multi-core
processors instead of increasing bus speeds.
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George Patrick
Tektronix, Inc.
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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sawyer Jayne
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 14:34
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Cc: Anderson Gary; Cech Charles
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] System requirements for 15.2
Since moving to 15.2 and positive planes we have been experiencing considerable
lag time when running DRC, using the electrical constraints for diff pairs or
doing edits to the planes.
The boards we are having issue with are
17" X 14"
16 layers
23477 connects
24000 via
We are looking to upgrading our hardware. I am hoping that some one in the
group might be working with similar conditions and already have updated to a
machine that could handle it. If any one can help me to spec a capable machine
please let me know.
Thanks in advance,
Jayne Sawyer
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