[PCB_FORUM] Re: New www.cdnusers.org forum - suggestions (was -Re: Don't shut this blah blah
- From: "Austin Franklin" <austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:46:35 -0500
Hi Michael,
Thank you very much for that clarification. I believed this was a Cadence
"sponsored" transition, but it appears from what you say that you guys, not
Cadence, are the catalyst for this. The thing that has caused trouble, was
to not ask the list what they wanted.
But again, the real issue here is what problem is trying to be solved. The
one thing that you say is "my only goal is to improve communication between
users that are on this list as well as some that do not know we even exist".
I appreciate that goal. But, there are many different ways to accomplish
that, and I'm not sure that this proposed "transition" is the better way.
Again, discussion of this beforehand might have given people better insight
on all accounts.
I also know that an email list and even a forum, are not a democracy. If
the list owner wants to terminate/move the list, that is his/her decision.
If s/he wants to discuss it with the members, that is solely at the owner's
discretion. But, if one wants to run a successful "community" the members
considerations have to be taken into account, or you run the risk of having
no members.
Regards,
Austin
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> Austin,
>
> I wasn't going to send a reply to this nor do I believe you
> or anyone else is expecting one, anyway I will provide my
> two cents.
>
> There has been a lot of conversations on the PCB forum
> surrounding this transition and believe me I agree with
> alot that has been stated but there is some comments
> which I don't agree with. I personally have been working
> with Cadence over the past year to provide feedback on
> how we can improve the web site and forums on cdnusers.org
> and they have been very accommodating.
>
> I am a user of Cadence Tools just like the rest of you and
> my only goal is to improve communication between users
> that are on this list as well as some that do not know we
> even exist. I do not have an hidden agenda nor does the
> Carl, Randy and Charlie which decided that it was best to
> transition to the cdnusers.org forums. I would add Andreas
> to this list but it is clear he is no longer backing this transition
> but was included with the discussions and decision.
>
> For folks that have know me for a long time know that I am
> only out for the good of the user community and nothing
> more.. To be perfectly clear Cadence had nothing to do
> with this transition except that have a web site that the web site
> can support forums and has a much cleaner/flexible web
> interface that Freelist.org can only dream of having.
> Cadence suggested that we think about moving the PCB Forum
> over to cdnusers.org - it was not mandated.
>
> I may not be the owner of the PCB Forum but I am one of the
> founders that has been here supporting this list since the
> beginning when we only had a small group of users that attended
> the ICU. We started out on cadenceusers.org then moved to
> Topica.com and now Freelists.org. My only regret is that during
> the transition to Freelists.org I should of remained the owner
> of the list because it appears my voice has no weight to some
> people due to that fact.
>
> I have and will continue to forward everyone's requests/comments
> to Cadence on how we can improve the cdnusers.org web site
> and forums to try to address the issues. I will send out updates
> on the issues so it is not assumed that they went directly to my
> trash can.
>
> Thanks for listening,
> Mike
>
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> "austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>@freelists.org on 03/09/2006
> 06:33:38 AM
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> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: New www.cdnusers.org forum -
> suggestions (was
> -Re: Don't shut this blah blah
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>
> Hi Richard,
>
> > First, please read my posting about "resistance to change".
>
> It is human nature to resist change, but change in and of it self is not
> necessarily good, or bad. From what I can tell, this is not a change that
> is solving any issues/problem with this list, so I see no rational reason
> for changing. It appears that this change was made to satisfy an agenda
> which is not necessarily coincident with the members of this list.
>
> Regards,
>
> Austin
>
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