I'm sure I've mentioned this before (but many years ago). When you change certain column widths in a table TW wrecks the widths of all columns. For example, if you have a table created with auto-width (default) then set the format to non-auto-width the column markers are at 0 54.1 107.8 163.4 Moving left marker to 20 works fine, moving right marker to 140 results in... 31.9 66 119.6 151.5 Now moving left marker to 0.5 results in... 6.2 71.6 125.6? 157.4? the ? markers got lost when I touched the second marker in order to check its exact position - obviously I just accidentally moved it a pixel or two, the result being... 28.1 87.5 98 141.2 Clearly the moving of column width markers is uncontrolled. In fact, with certain tables the resulting column widths are totally wrecked, so much so that markers are moved right outside the page margins, some end up with almost zero width and there doesn't appear to be any logical explanation of how it arrives at the new marker positions. The problem usually relates to moving either the left or right markers. All the ones in between can *usually* be moved without a problem, but not always. For example, suppose markers are at 6.2 71.9 125.6 157.4 (as example above) then move second marker from 71.9 to 40, the result is 21.8 68.3 87.8 141.5 Examining these results reveals a possible clue as to the bug here... Column widths in the above example are: A B C 65.70 53.70 31.80 46.50 19.50 53.70 Note the old width of column B seems to have been applied to C. On trying to investigate this I then moved the third marker (between B and C) to 70. Then I touched each marker to see its exact position... 48.70 87.10 ??.?? ??.?? (on touching 2nd the positions all moved - again I must have moved it a pixel or two). The result was then... 56.50 95.00 95.80 106.80 However, although 3rd marker position was reported as 95.8 when touched (select click) its ACTUAL position on the ruler was approx 103.2 (the other markers appeared to be where they were reported to be). Note how just jogging the position of a marker a pixel or two resulted in seemingly random changes in position of all markers. Also, note how the table width always seems to get narrower every time this happens. In this test case the columns contained abc def ghi pqr stu vwx and after the last column width change described above, the ghi and vwx ended up outside the right margin (because the cell padding was 6.3mm). Finally, when the above situation occurs, touching the column markers to try to move them results in *three* red markers being drawn (as oppposed to just the one you're trying to move). So, all in all, there are some problems here which need fixing, and I can't understand why we've gone for many years without this being flagged as a serious problem. Surely I'm not the only person who has seen this? Since I use tables a lot I'd love to have this fixed. Cheers, Mike ------------------------------------------------------------ To change, suspend or cancel your subscription go to //www.freelists.org/list/icon-users ------------------------------------------------------------