Hi, I understand your pain about passwords. But, for future reference, most motherboards have a header on them which can be jumped with a standard jumper. This completely clears the CMOS and resets everything back to factory settings including all passwords. You should never have to throw one away. John -----Original Message----- From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael McCarty Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:12 AM To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Interesting Idea One thing to remember, especially for the Braille+ is that we sell these to schools for student use. I'd hate to be the tech who had to fool with passwords and all the changes kids could make to the various units, what a headache! Having been in computer repair and recycling, I can tell you that one of the most aggravating aspect of customer service and tech support is the introduction of a password on the CMOS or operating system of a computer. People tend to forget their passwords, or enter spaces or other symbols that are impossible to guess. I know that's the purpose of a password, but when someone tells you that the password is dog and they leave off the fact that they put a tilda at the end, it can really be aggravating. We used to throw entire motherboards away because we couldn't get into the CMOS because of a password. Now, I'm not saying that your idea is a bad one, what I might ask is could we password protect a folder or group of folders instead of the entire system? From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Lambert Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:14 PM To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Interesting Idea I just thought of an interesting idea for a future release. For those of you who have owned Pocket PC devices or PACmates, you will be familiar with this, but for those who don't I should explain. In the Pocket PC environment you get the opportunity to password-protect your device. In the case of Mobile Speak Pocket, there are even some devices with finger print scanners. If your device is stolen, you can have it set so that if the thief has 3 failed password attempts, the unit will excecute a hard reset and wipe everything as a protective measure. I was thinking about something similar for the Icon. To make it even more complexing for the thief, however, and less likely to try it in the first place, I think the password should be limited to thumb braille only. Any thoughts on this? ________________________________ Introducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back! Try it Now <http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=introsrch cashback> No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1522 - Release Date: 6/27/2008 8:27 AM Icon Discuss Mailing List icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx //www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the subject line to: icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To post to this list, send your message to: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille +, Visit the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php Visit the APH FAQ page at http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html