[ibis-macro] Re: question about Gaussian parameter

  • From: "Muranyi, Arpad" <Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:07:00 -0700

As far as I can tell, this format "(PDF 0 0.5 0.01)" is not only
questionable in its interpretation, but doesn't it violate
the concept of name/value pair we have in the tree syntax?
 
If I am not mistaken about that, this seems to be related to
the problem we ran into with the tap coefficients, where one
vendor we all know uses a similar one name, multiple number
format, which might be considered a vector (or array), that
can't be done according to the current official AMI spec.
 
Arpad
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From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ambrish Varma
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:02 PM
To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: question about Gaussian parameter



Radek,

There is a slight problem with Gaussian, Dual-Dirac and DJRJ (more so
with Dual-Dirac and DjRj than with Gaussian). 

Dual-Dirac can be expressed in this format: (PDF (Format Dual-Dirac
<mean> <mean> <sigma>)) for ex: (PDF (Format Dual-Dirac 0 0.5 0.01))

and

DjRj in this format: (PDF (Format Dual-Dirac <meanDj> < maxDj >
<sigma>)) for ex: (PDF (Format Dual-Dirac 0 0.5 0.01))

 

So if you don't specify if its Dual-Dirac or DjRj, the pram input string
will look like this for both:

(PDF 0 0.5 0.01)

 

How would you know which type of format to apply to PDF.

Thanks,

Ambrish.

 

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From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
radek_biernacki@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:47 PM
To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: question about Gaussian parameter

 

Walter,

 

I do not think we can "remove" Gaussian from the specification. It is
already there.

 

As a matter of fact we should try to clarify issues like this one,
wherever there is a possibility for misinterpretation.

 

For Fangyi's question I think the logically correct answer should be the
second one:

 

(PDF 0.0 0.01)

 

It follows the concept of (leaf_name   value) where "value" in this case
consists of two numbers.

 

Radek

 

From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Katz
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:25 AM
To: RAO,FANGYI (A-USA,ex1); ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: question about Gaussian parameter

 

Fangyi,

 

One of the reasons why I have proposed removing Gaussian as a type in
the new BIRD.

 

Walter

 

Walter Katz

303.449-2308

Mobile 720.333-1107

wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx

www.sisoft.com

 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:24 AM
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Subject: [ibis-macro] question about Gaussian parameter

 

Hi, Experts;

 

If an AMI model has a parameter (PDF (Format Gaussian 0.0 0.01)), what
should the Init input parameter string be? Should it be

 

(PDF Gaussian 0.0 0.01)

 

or

 

(PDF 0.0 0.01)

 

or other format?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Fangyi

 

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