Walter, We need to be careful about the selection of words here. Your statement: "and the committee approved without objection its removal" sounds a little as if we have had an official vote on it in the IBIS-ATM meetings, but I don't recall anything like that happening. I agree, we had a bunch of reviews and discussions on the draft BIRD, and so far no-one seemed to object the content in the proposed draft document, but I would hesitate to say that it has been approved... I would only say that when the BIRD is done, and handed over to the IBIS Open Forum, filed with an actual BIRD number. Thanks, Arpad =============================================================== ________________________________ From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Katz Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:25 PM To: Scott McMorrow Cc: dkirsanov@xxxxxxxxxx; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: question about Gaussian parameter Scott, I did not remove Gaussian. I proposed removing Gaussian from the spec to the IBIS ATM committee, and the committee approved without objection its removal. Walter Walter Katz 303.449-2308 Mobile 720.333-1107 wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx www.sisoft.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott McMorrow [mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:17 PM To: wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: dkirsanov@xxxxxxxxxx; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ibis-macro] Re: question about Gaussian parameter Walter You don't have the authority to "announce" the removal of a feature that is in a GEIA published specification. You may choose to not use it, however, removal from an existing specification is a difficult process. This is why the BIRD process needs to be thorough and complete. regards, Scott Walter Katz wrote: All, I announced removal of things like Gaussian and Table for the exact reasons that Danil stated. I did this many many moons ago. Why did no one object at that time? All decisions that have been made can always be reviewed, but we also need to be practical about it. Walter Walter Katz 303.449-2308 Mobile 720.333-1107 wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx www.sisoft.com -----Original Message----- From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Danil Kirsanov Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:54 PM To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: question about Gaussian parameter Radek, I believe that since "gausian" keyword was not very clearly defined in the specs, and no developers so far have used it in their AMI files (correct me if I am wrong), the best solution is to remove it from the specs for now. The simpler the spec is, the easier it is for everybody to support it. Best, Danil From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of radek_biernacki@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:47 PM To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: question about Gaussian parameter Walter, I do not think we can "remove" Gaussian from the specification. It is already there. As a matter of fact we should try to clarify issues like this one, wherever there is a possibility for misinterpretation. For Fangyi's question I think the logically correct answer should be the second one: (PDF 0.0 0.01) It follows the concept of (leaf_name value) where "value" in this case consists of two numbers. Radek From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Katz Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:25 AM To: RAO,FANGYI (A-USA,ex1); ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: question about Gaussian parameter Fangyi, One of the reasons why I have proposed removing Gaussian as a type in the new BIRD. Walter Walter Katz 303.449-2308 Mobile 720.333-1107 wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx www.sisoft.com -----Original Message----- From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of fangyi_rao@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:24 AM To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] question about Gaussian parameter Hi, Experts; If an AMI model has a parameter (PDF (Format Gaussian 0.0 0.01)), what should the Init input parameter string be? Should it be (PDF Gaussian 0.0 0.01) or (PDF 0.0 0.01) or other format? Thanks in advance, Fangyi -- Scott McMorrow Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 121 North River Drive Narragansett, RI 02882 (401) 284-1827 Business (401) 284-1840 Fax http://www.teraspeed.com Teraspeed(r) is the registered service mark of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC