[openbeos] Re: "One Hour for Haiku" - Coordinating Voluntary Cash Donors
- From: Czeslaw Czapla <czapla@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:23:40 -0700
Hi.
I suppose that the PayPal subscription service would suffice. Simply
adding a PayPal "Subscribe" button to the Donations page on the Haiku
website would be pretty easy, and would certainly be better than
nothing. I just read up on it at the PayPal site.
Honestly, I think that it suffers from several deficiencies relative to
my proposal.
It lacks publicity; the transactions are private and hidden, and nobody
has any idea that I am making a small sacrifice each month to help out
the project.
It is impersonal; I receive no regular communication (not even a form
letter) from Haiku in connection with my financial commitment.
It furnishes none of the psychological benefits and incentives that come
from membership in a group of voluntary contributors (camaraderie,
feelings of belonging, doing good together, mutual recognition and
respect, etc.).
It is removed from my direct control; my payments to Haiku Inc. would be
entirely automated. My personal act of contribution would become a
silent, faceless transaction between my credit card company and PayPal,
completed without my intervention or agency, rather than a transaction
between me and Haiku Inc. I might even forget about the fact of my
subscription altogether -- until I find myself annoyed at that
mysterious recurring charge on my credit card bill each month. The cash
amount itself would be invariable (comparatively speaking), as would the
timing of the donation. These latter factors, frankly, could frighten
potential contributors away from initial participation because they
effectively make greater demands on participants than an email reminder
service. In other words, the PayPal thing *feels* like a bigger
commitment, whether or not it actually is.
On the other hand, automated payments through PayPal subscriptions would
certainly be funded each month -- just like clockwork...with mechanical
precision...
Don't get me wrong. I'm not here to make a fuss or get myself all worked
up. But I do believe that there are substantive differences between
these two alternatives and I would be remiss to keep them to myself.
Surely, either solution would represent a step forward from our present
position.
Best wishes,
Czeslaw
Simon Porter wrote:
Hi,
I did mention having a way of regularly donating to the project a long
while ago but nothing came of it. I do like the idea of "One Hour for
Haiku". People only need donate a small amount each and it can turn into
quite a sizeable income for the project.
I don't think sending out emails to a list of subscribers every month is
necessary. As Michael mentioned you can subscribe through Paypal if its
set up with a button on the site.
Another thing I think people appreciate is some rough idea of how much
money the project currently has and what its being used for. Maybe even
set a goal to aim for each month like enough to pay for 1 developer to
work on haiku full time. It was nice to see axel get paid to work full
time a while ago. I think seeing such direct results would encourage
people to donate.
Navigation to the donation page seems pretty hidden as well. Could do
with a link on the home page.
Regards,
Simon Porter
> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:54:38 -0700
> From: czapla@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [openbeos] Re: "One Hour for Haiku" - Coordinating Voluntary
Cash Donors
>
> Hello, again.
>
> I'm thankful for the generally warm reception that my proposal has
> received.
>
> Several of the responses have taken my simple proposal as a point of
> departure, proceeding to elaborate more general ideas about
> organizational development and the process of institutional maturation,
> all of which is interesting and hopeful and potentially fruitful for the
> future of the project. Clearly, Haiku has many dedicated and thoughtful
> caretakers, most especially among the core contributors.
>
> But it would be a mistake to pose these various elaborations as
> *prerequisites* to implementation of a simple membership donation
> program like One Hour for Haiku. I must argue that it would be more
> useful to think -- contrariwise -- of the membership donation program as
> part of a *foundation* that could ultimately permit greater
> organizational capabilities and maturity through improved financial
> wherewithal.
>
> Keeping it simple, what I am proposing is really just an addition to the
> Haiku website.
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Hi,I did mention having a way of regularly donating to the project a long while ago but nothing came of it. I do like the idea of "One Hour for Haiku". People only need donate a small amount each and it can turn into quite a sizeable income for the project. I don't think sending out emails to a list of subscribers every month is necessary. As Michael mentioned you can subscribe through Paypal if its set up with a button on the site. Another thing I think people appreciate is some rough idea of how much money the project currently has and what its being used for. Maybe even set a goal to aim for each month like enough to pay for 1 developer to work on haiku full time. It was nice to see axel get paid to work full time a while ago. I think seeing such direct results would encourage people to donate. Navigation to the donation page seems pretty hidden as well. Could do with a link on the home page. Regards, Simon Porter
> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:54:38 -0700 > From: czapla@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [openbeos] Re: "One Hour for Haiku" - Coordinating Voluntary Cash Donors
> > Hello, again. > > I'm thankful for the generally warm reception that my proposal has > received. > > Several of the responses have taken my simple proposal as a point of > departure, proceeding to elaborate more general ideas about > organizational development and the process of institutional maturation, > all of which is interesting and hopeful and potentially fruitful for the > future of the project. Clearly, Haiku has many dedicated and thoughtful > caretakers, most especially among the core contributors. > > But it would be a mistake to pose these various elaborations as > *prerequisites* to implementation of a simple membership donation > program like One Hour for Haiku. I must argue that it would be more > useful to think -- contrariwise -- of the membership donation program as > part of a *foundation* that could ultimately permit greater > organizational capabilities and maturity through improved financial > wherewithal. > > Keeping it simple, what I am proposing is really just an addition to the > Haiku website.
- [openbeos] Re: "One Hour for Haiku" - Coordinating Voluntary Cash Donors
- From: Simon Porter